Talk:Henry Mathewson

A fact from Henry Mathewson appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 December 2018 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that baseball pitcher Henry Mathewson and his brothers, among them Hall of Famer Christy Mathewson, were said to have been taught to throw by their mother?

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Historical Note[edit]

Until 25 November 2018, this was a stub. It has been replaced by an improved article that was submitted as a draft. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on Notability[edit]

This is an excellent example of a person who is only marginally notable, but there is no question as to the notability. He is not notable because of his brother (who was one of the great pitchers of the early twentieth century) because notability is not inherited. However, he played three games in Major League Baseball, and that is enough. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(note:  In the process of changing username...)

Hi. I admittedly misread some of the rules for DYK (it's been a long time since I submitted an article to it, and the process has changed since then), so I do admittedly have some mistakes. (I think I read the "don't link" rule as not linking Henry Mathewson in the DYK.) What I don't know is if I can fix them above without violating some sort of guideline. I want to just outright add the linking to Henry in the hooks, but I didn't think I was allowed to edit this page like that. Even though I've had an account for awhile, I still don't know all the rules because I've had so many times away from it.

Anyway, beyond that, here's how I'll respond to everything.

1. I have added a link to Christy Mathewson's HOF page. I'm not convinced I did it right, but we'll see.

2. I have put the source for the 14+ walk pitchers in the main article, as well as in the note since I felt that keeping the AL pitchers who were better was important, but if someone deems it otherwise, that's okay.

3. Again, I wasn't sure if I could straight up edit like that; that's why it hasn't been done yet.

4. I removed the idea that tuberculosis caused his career to end, instead mentioning his career ended in 1915.

5. Yes, that's a new idea to me...like I said, it's been awhile. I do like the idea, though, and since I do have another DYK idea in the offing, I'll do two of these...maybe if I read the guidelines, I can do this correctly. :)

6. I kind of like the picture on the SABR page a little more. :) Seriously, though, I wasn't thinking about including the picture since I didn't add it and I didn't think the article would get the first line. I'm willing to give that (or the SABR picture) a shot once I'm sure I can edit this particular page with one without violating a guideline.

Thanks for the review. Oh, one more question: Since my username is now changed from Transaspie to JustJamie820, can I straight up edit the mention of the old name above or does that violate a rule? Anyway, let me know if I need to do anything else, and clarify if I can straight up edit the hook without breaching the rules. -- JustJamie820 (talk) 05:17, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I have decided to take initiative and fix the formatting on my own. I also reviewed Your Call Football, but I don't know where to mention it. Anyway, one down, one to go. -- JustJamie820 (talk) 07:42, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't have a problem with you updating the user name above. Just one issue left for me: In the new sentence on Mathewson being in the Hall of Fame (in the lead), I'd add the Henry Mathewson SABR ref to that area right next to the Baseball Hall of Fame cite, because the Hall of Fame page doesn't support the younger brother bit. I normally don't advocate putting a bunch of citations in the lead when the content is supported in the body of an article, but since this is part of a hook I don't want anyone checking that source to see only half of the content supported. Fix that and this will be good to go, in my eyes. Giants2008 (Talk) 16:36, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've done what you suggested...maybe even correctly. :) Let me know if any other issues pop up. Thanks for your help, by the way, with getting me back into the swing of DYK, both with what I knew from the past and what I didn't know (like QPQ reviews) from the present. -- JustJamie820 (talk) 17:27, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Everything looks ready now. Among the hooks, my personal preference is ALT1, as it could be argued that the first one is as much about Christy as Henry, who is the subject of the article in question and arguably should be the one the hook focuses on. However, they do both check out. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:34, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the approval. It's been a pleasure working with you on this. -- JustJamie820 (talk) 07:23, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]