Talk:Hikoshiro Sadamune
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Horribly, Terribly, Wrong[edit]
Hiromitsu and Sadamune are two different people. Hikoshiro Sadamune is the one smith, and Kurasaboro Hiromitsu is the other. Both are considered students of Masamune. This article has melded them into one person. Every reference book states this. I am adding text from Fujishiro's Nihon Token Jiten as backup for the edit I am about to perform (basically removing references to Hiromitsu, since the data in this article is all about Soshu Hikoshiro Sadamune).
HIROMITSU SÔSHÛ [ENBUN 1356 ND SAGAMI] CHÛKOTÔ SAIJÔSAKU He is said to have been called Kurôsaburô, and the common story is that he was a pupil of Masamune [...] Hiromitsu is considered a representative of those referred to in the world as Sôshû den.
SADAMUNE SÔSHÛ [KENMU 1334 SAGAMI] He is called Hikoshirô, is considered to be the adopted son of Gorô Masamune, and Gôshû Takagi Sadamune is said to be either the same person or his son. [...]
Signatures: SAGAMI KUNI JÛNIN SADAMUNE SÔSHÛ TAKAGI JÛ SADAMUNE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.94.235.182 (talk) 17:04, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Requested move[edit]
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:02, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Hikoshiro Hiromitsu → Hikoshiro Sadamune – This article has confused the two smiths documented here and combined them into one person. There does not exist a reference that makes the claim in this article that Sadamune is Hiromitsu and crosses their given names like this. The NBTHK is considered authoritative, and Dr. Junji who is referred to in this article has documented them as different smiths as well: http://www.touken.or.jp/english/nihon_koto_shi/%2813%29%20No.559.htm 17:49, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Souces says that he was a son or adopted son of Masamune. 彦四郎貞宗 (ひこしろうさだむね)
Probably, Hikoshirō Sadamune is correct. Takabeg (talk) 09:19, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
- Support. This is a simple mistake. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan/Archive/September 2009#Question ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:23, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Sources[edit]
- ^ 日本大百科全書, Vol 21, 小学館, 1984, "正宗の子または養子とされる彦四郎貞宗" (p. 864.)
- ^ 朝日百科日本の国宝, 朝日新聞社, 1999, "正宗の養子ひこしろうさだむねと伝えられる彦四郎貞宗"
- ^ 栞, 塚本美術館, 1983, 正宗の子供といわれる相州貞宗は正宗同様地刃共に沸づく力、板目の約んだ地鉄に湾れに互の目を交じふた刃紋で、正宗より穏やかな作風を示しており、... (p. 24.)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.