Talk:History of Kumamoto Prefecture

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Yamato[edit]

Can the article Yamato period be used for any of the "Yamato"-named reigns? Yamato Ouken, for example? Yamato Court? Yamato Chotei? Student7 (talk) 21:44, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for your comment. At the present time, there is no agreement as to the description of Yamato-ouken, since the force had been interrupted ;and reading the comments of historians, I thought Yamato-ouken is most acceptable and neutral; and Yamato-ouken is tentatively used. Please read the history of Kagoshima Prefecture and that of Miyazaki Prefecture. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 11:17, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tough reading[edit]

Some parts of this, using Japanese words unfamiliar to English ears, can make tough reading. I'm not finding "gozoku" in English dictionaries generally. I'm thinking it should be replaced, for example. We are not trying to force English speakers to learn more words than they know already. The same (maybe) with "Wa" for Japan. Some are okay: samurai and Edo are well-understood. Student7 (talk) 21:59, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Gōzoku can be found in English Wikipedia. Thanks for your comment, but it is very difficult to translate Japanese history. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 05:21, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. It is true with any language, but certainly for a non-European language like Hebrew, for example, or Japanese. Nevertheless, editors are not supposed to introduce terms to English. That is the job of non-Wikipedia reliable sources. Where words not normally used in English but "difficult" to translate, and editor has two choices: use several English language terms that may sound awkward or find a close choice that might be supported by other editors. Sometimes exact precision is not really vital. (Sometimes it is!). Student7 (talk) 22:09, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway, gozoku has an almost exact correlation to a liege lord in English or other European Middle Ages lord. It is not unique to Japanese, as samurai may be. Student7 (talk) 22:13, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I do not understand Liege Lord. By the way, it is very difficult to translate things Japanese. Kami is better than God, for instance. --Ichiro Kikuchi (talk) 01:52, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is no article on liege lord, despite your joking link to a band. It is in the English language already. Article Homage (feudal). There are probably others. Wiktionary:liege or Wiktionary:feudal lord applies. Student7 (talk) 13:04, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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