Talk:Holy See

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Recent edits[edit]

There seems to be no consensus for the recent edits of an anonymous IP. That's why I invite the ip to explain his edits here and remember that until the discussion is finished is the last stable version that should be visible. Alex2006 (talk) 08:38, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

It is you and the other user should discuss any changes before doing any substantial editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.150.87.188 (talk) 16:22, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
You first inserted your proposal on 12 February. It was immediately removed as being, in the view of other editors, a disimprovement. In accordance with WP:BRD, it was then up to you to explain, through discussion, the reasons why you think it is, on the contrary, an improvement on what was there before. This you have not done, although it is up to the person who wants to make a change to justify making it. Technically, you can be blocked from editing because of doing 4 reverts within 24 hours, but perhaps it is best to give you a further chance to try and justify making the change you desire. In the meantime, I am restoring the text without your controversial change. Esoglou (talk) 17:00, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
What insert are you talking about? Nothing!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.150.7.2 (talk) 15:38, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
If there was no alteration, there is nothing to discuss. Esoglou (talk) 16:21, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
You are the one who made the significant reduction of data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.150.7.2 (talk) 17:35, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

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Jurisdiction of the Holy See[edit]

I am not sure how to best address this issue, but "Jurisdiction = Vatican City..." seams incorrect, or at least incomplete. "Jurisdiction" does not quite describe the relationship that the Holy See has with Vatican City, per se. The Holy See is the symbolic seat of the Pope, who has jurisdiction over Catholics within the immediate Diocese of Rome, as well as all over the world (the conflicting definition of jurisdiction was cause minor confusion in another discussion). The Vatican is a territory administered by the Holy See, perhaps, maybe? I do not quite know how to portray this on the template. --Zfish118 (talk) 02:48, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I would say that here, in order to write something having sense, we would need an handbook of Canonical law. Until then, I would leave the template as it is, since he was written by an user who was very knowledgeable about this subject. Alex2006 (talk) 09:34, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Looks okay to me.
The jurisdiction is somewhat similar (certainly NOT identical) to an archbishop who administers to his diocese but technically is metropolitan of a bunch of other dioceses. His usual "control" over the dioceses is minimal, but he tries to appoint (subject to Rome) bishops to those dioceses, when a see becomes vacant.
Nor can a Pope tell a bishop what to do. He can remove and replace him, but that is about it. The "vast" control that people imagine a pope to have is not really born out in actual practice. The pope is still trying to implement Vatican II! Student7 (talk) 18:51, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

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Template:Pentarchy?[edit]

What are the arguments for and against of including the Template:Pentarchy in the footer of this article, please? Chicbyaccident (talk) 17:14, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

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