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An amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, requiring the President to report any non-intelligence CIA operations (i.e. covert actions) to relevant Congressional committee (at the time this numbered around 8 committees) in a timely fashion.

This amendment addressed the question of CIA covert actions and prohibited the use of appropriated funds for their conduct unless and until the President "finds" that each such operation is important to the national security and submits this Finding to the appropriate Congressional committees--a total of six committees. (This grew to eight committees after the House and Senate intelligence committees were established.)

The objective of this act was to ensure that the responsible intelligence oversight committees within Congress were properly informed of covert actions in a reasonable period of time.

Taken entirely from [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by TDC (talk • contribs)

Actual text of milnet:

An amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act of 1974, requiring the President to report any non-intelligence CIA operations (i.e. covert actions) to relevant Congressional committee (at the time this numbered around 8 committees) in a timely fashion.

The objective of this act was to ensure that the responsible intelligence oversight committees within Congress were properly informed of covert actions in a reasonable period of time.

Both sentences have been changed.Travb 00:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

By the early years of the 1970s, the unpopular war in Southeast Asia and the unfolding Watergate scandal brought the era of minimal oversight to a screeching halt. The Congress was determined to rein in the Nixon administration and to ascertain the extent to which the nation's intelligence agencies had been involved in questionable, if not outright illegal, activities.

A series of troubling revelations started to appear in the press concerning intelligence activities. The dam broke on 22 December 1974, when The New York Times published a lengthy article by Seymour Hersh detailing operations engaged in by the CIA over the years that had been dubbed the "family jewels." Covert action programs involving assassination attempts against foreign leaders and covert attempts to subvert foreign governments were reported for the first time. In addition, the article discussed efforts by intelligence agencies to collect information on the political activities of US citizens.

These revelations convinced many Senators and Representatives that the Congress itself had been too lax, trusting, and naive in carrying out its oversight responsibilities. (Many of the so-called family jewels had been briefed to some members on the existing oversight panels, but in the highly charged atmosphere of the Watergate period they tended to opt for selective amnesia when asked if they had known about these activities.)

The first legislative response was enactment in 1974 of the Hughes-Ryan Amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961.

Taken entirely from [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by TDC (talk • contribs)

Information is from CIA site, Center for the Study of Intelligence, which is a US govermental organization. Therefore the original information compiled on this wikisite is free of copyright. See Copyright and U.S. Government works Travb 21:08, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

abide by the ruling of the mediator

Alrihgt, here is my last plea. Do not remove content just because it appears to be mostly comment. Rather, use your brain, read it thouroughly and edit it. There's a reason why it's called edit this page. Just because one sentence in a paragraph is copied, don't delete the whole thing. Wikipedia:Copyrights clearly states "If some of the content of a page really is an infringement, then the infringing content should be removed". The only case where you should remove ALL content is if the entire thing is a clear and cut copyright violation. Also, if you take an idea and rewrite it (i.e. put some creative effort into it) then it is no longer a CP. The next time you observe a CP, do not just delete it right away. Read it and see if there's a better way to summarise it and then fix it. Deleting it is a last resort. I'm pretty sure the policy on this is very clear. Remember: don't just go around deleting stuff. That's counter-productive to what Wikipedia is trying to accomplish in the long run (i.e. store as much encyclopedic information as possible). Sasquatcht|c 21:27, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Winter_Soldier_Investigation#Removing_content_versus_fixing_content

Signed: Travb

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Co-sponsor Congressman Ryan was machine gunned with people he was trying to rescue from Jim Jones in Guyana, precipitating the Jonestown mass murder the same day in 1978.

Please reference your work, all contributions must be verifiable.Travb 21:39, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Foreign assistance act of 1974

There now exists a duplicate article I created called the Foreign Assistance Act of 1974. The Hughes-Ryan act, near as I can tell, was actually jusy one of the many ammendments included in the Foreign Assistance Act of 1974. The article here is far more expansive and has more content. However I think the correct name of the article should be "foreign assistance act of 1974" with all this content in a section under the Hughes-Ryan ammendment. I would welcome comment from anyone more knowledgable on this subject than I, but this seems to be a seldom-visited part of the wiki, and if nobody else has offered input in the coming days/few weeks I will just do the research as best I can and make the move/merge on my own.

Both appear to be S. 3394 , 93rd US congress, See: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d093:SN03394:@@@L&summ2=m& IforgotAboutSemiProtection (talk) 19:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 September 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Hughes–Ryan Amendment. There is consensus to move, but I think the endash should be retained, rather than a hyphen - I'm assuming that was just an error in the nomination, since the issue of the dash wasn't discussed at all below. — Amakuru (talk) 15:33, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hughes–Ryan Act → Hughes-Ryan Amendment – This article should be moved, per IforgotAboutSemiProtection above. The "Foreign Assistance Act of 1974" is an act that amends another act:^[α]

Public Law 93-559
                                               AN ACT
     To amend the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, and for other purposes.

  Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled, That this Act may
be cited as the "Foreign Assistance Act of 1974".

The Hughes-Ryan Amendment was an amendment to the Foreign Assistance Act of 1974 (section 32 of said act), which amended section 662 of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961.^[β]

^ https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-88/pdf/STATUTE-88-Pg1795.pdf
^ https://fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/leghist.pdf#page=11 Unlike the "Foreign Assistance Act of 1974", "Hughes-Ryan Amendment" is a common name, which perhaps contributes to the confusion.

Uglemat (talk) 13:19, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support per detailed nomination. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 16:55, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

[1] ttps://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-88/pdf/STATUTE-88-Pg1795.pdf

[2] ttps://fas.org/sgp/crs/intel/leghist.pdf#page=11 Unlike the "Foreign Assistance Act of 1974", "Hughes-Ryan Amendment" is a common name, which perhaps contributes to the confusion.

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