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So, where did the igorots came from? Are they part of the larger Austronesian family or a separate ethnic line entirely?--75.36.39.36 22:30, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

"Some Igorot groups formerly practiced headhunting." Do we also have a statement in other Wikipedia pages that state "Some [name] groups practiced beheading" in the first paragraph too?

Weasel Words[edit]

Too many some.. some... some... in the overview (WP:WEASEL). It needs to be backed up with citation or it is WP:OR. Or it needs to be reworded so that it is more assertive that they did do it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Getonyourfeet (talkcontribs) 18:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC).

Since nobody volunteered, I initiated cleanup of weasel and "shy" and "good" comments. Dayta manga nalutneng unay. - Athrash | Talk 21:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Image possibly worth including[edit]

Igorrote women demonstrating weaving techniques, Alaska Yukon Pacific Exposition, Seattle, 1909.jpg

Igorrote women demonstrating weaving techniques, Alaska Yukon Pacific Exposition, Seattle, 1909. I leave it to someone who has been working on this article to decide whether it would be useful. - Jmabel | Talk 04:19, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Sources[edit]

http://nointervention.com/archive/pubs/CWIS/imnr.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20070203183239/http://www.cwis.org/fwj/21/imnr.html

http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_29July2012_Reclaiming%20Bangsamoro%20Humanity%20from%20Foreign%20Colonizers.htm

http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_22Aug2012_Philippine%20State%20Terrorism%20Vis-a-vis%20Bangsamoro%20Freedom%20Struggle.htm

http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_13Dec2012_Philippine-Bangsamoro%20War%20in%20Mindanao--Origin%20&%20Aftermath.htm

http://fsi.stanford.edu/events/partitioning_the_philippines__is_it_desirable__is_it_realistic__a_scholarly_conversation

http://cddrl.stanford.edu/events/partitioning_the_philippines__is_it_desirable__is_it_realistic__a_scholarly_conversation/

http://books.google.com/books?id=TINRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA256&lpg=PA256#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=qiVtFIYfTA4C&pg=PA256&lpg=PA256#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=qiVtFIYfTA4C&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=JNMsAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=IzpV6VXT2fAC&pg=PA63&lpg=PA63#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.stuartxchange.com/Cordillera.html

Bontoc

http://www.bohol.ph/books/bi/bi.htm

http://www.bohol.ph/books/bi/img/pl136.jpg

http://www.bohol.ph/books/bi/img/pl137.jpg

http://www.bohol.ph/books/bi/img/pl138.jpg

http://www.bohol.ph/books/bi/img/pl139.jpg

http://www.bohol.ph/books/bi/img/pl140.jpg

http://www.bohol.ph/books/bi/img/pl143.jpg

http://www.bohol.ph/books/bi/img/pl144.jpg

Pictures

http://books.google.com/books?id=DDwLAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA554#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://bramie.com/igorot.html

http://www.bohol.ph/books/bi/bi.htm

http://www.bookrags.com/ebooks/3308/41.html

https://archive.org/details/thebontocigorot03308gut

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3308/3308-h/3308-h.htm

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/3308?msg=welcome_stranger

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/41918/41918-h/41918-h.htm

http://www.hellenicaworld.com/Philippines/Literature/DeanConantWorcester/en/PhilippinesPastAndPresent2.html

http://ocw.mit.edu/ans7870/21f/21f.027/photography_and_power_02/dw02_essay02.html

http://ocw.mit.edu/ans7870/21f/21f.027/photography_and_power_02/dw02_essay04.html

http://www.natgeocreative.com/photography/deancworcester

http://www.natgeocreative.com/photography/charlesmartin

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/869942434/katutubong-filipino-project-vanishing-indigenous-c/posts/158744

http://www.pinterest.com/PadronOpusX/weapons-and-armor/

http://silentreed.hubpages. com/hub/headhunters-of-the-cordilleras

http://blogs.fanbox.com/SinglePost.aspx?pbid=1883312&post=2259535&aid=0

http://therionarms.com/whatsit/ttoy397_nfs.html

https://www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/sets/72157627344453518/with/6404115421/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/sets/72157627344453518/with/6404114779/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/6404115421/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/balangao/2260002686/in/photostream/

Tiffany Williams photograph collection. Original photograph is in the University of Michigan Library Special Collections.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?c=sclphilimg;page=index http://quod.lib.umich.edu/s/sclphilimg

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/s/sclphilimg?type=boolean;view=thumbnail;rgn1=;q1=tiffany+williams

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?id=S-SCLPHILIMG-X-2062%5DPHLG194

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?id=S-SCLPHILIMG-X-2024%5DPHLG155

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/s/sclphilimg/x-1941/phlg072

https://www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/6404115421/in/set-72157627450841663

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?id=S-SCLPHILIMG-X-2024%5DPHLG155

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/i/image/image-idx?id=S-SCLPHILIMG-X-2062%5DPHLG194

https://www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/sets/72157627450841663/detail/?page=3

https://www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/6404114779/in/set-72157627450841663/

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/s/sclphilimg/x-1996/PHLG127?from=index;lasttype=boolean;lastview=thumbnail;resnum=1;size=20;start=1;subview=detail;view=entry;rgn1=ic_all

https://www.facebook.com/656729927676590/photos/a.664223073593942.1073741879.656729927676590/719771084705807/?type=1

http://www.igorotjournal.com/2010_08_01_archive.html

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7438&page=1&pp=30&highlight=igorot

http://www.fmatalk.com/archive/index.php/t-529.html

http://www.postcardman.net/philippines_ethnic.html

http://www.postcardman.net/philippines/37704.jpg

http://www.postcardman.net/philippines/202410.jpg

http://www.postcardman.net/philippines/202461.jpg

http://www.postcardman.net/philippines/44611.jpg

http://www.postcardman.net/philippines/202436.jpg

http://www.postcardman.net/philippines/37735.jpg

http://www.postcardman.net/37708.jpg

Ifugao

http://www.postcardman.net/philippines/202434.jpg

Ibaloy

http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/97/oceania/05226800.jpg

Tingguians

http://sirismm.si.edu/naa/97/oceania/05183600.jpg

http://www.cardcow.com/c/20264/17/southeast-asia/

http://www.cardcow.com/372754/igorrote-dog-feast-southeast-asia/

http://www.cardcow.com/386676/igorot-girls-southeast-asia/

http://www.cardcow.com/310633/igorot-girl-mt-province-southeast-asia/

http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoos_in_Philippines.htm

http://www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=-garAlQyRQo

http://exhibits.slpl.org/lpe/data/LPE240023058.asp?thread=240029422


Look for images and potential sources in the postings.

https://en-gb.facebook.com/igorotsonline/posts/676545979028458

https://www.facebook.com/igorotsonline?ref=stream&fref=nf

https://www.facebook.com/pages/I-am-not-a-filipinoI-AM-AN-Igorot/189534911068327

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Igorotak-I-am-an-Igorot/162940696498?ref=stream&fref=nf

https://www.facebook.com/cordicomm

The Igorot is not Filipino. — Carlos P. Romulo

The fact remains that the Igorot is not Filipino and we are not related, and it hurts our feelings to see him pictured in American newspapers under such captions as ‘Typical Filipino Tribesman.’ – Carlos P. Romulo, (1943) Mother America. Garden City, New York: Doubleday, Doran & Co. p. 59.

Rajmaan (talk) 20:01, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Geographical rather than Alphabetical Ordering of Ethnic Groups[edit]

Requesting guidance: At some point soon I would like to re-order the list of ethnic groups here to reflect geographical location, rather than having an alphabetical listing. Would that be okay? Or does that risk creating some sort of north-south bias? I feel that a geographical arrangement would be significantly more informative to readers, but I'm also aware that alphabetical listings are sometimes preferable for being less controversial. Anyone care to tell me if this would be a sensitive matter? Thanks. - Alternativity (talk) 04:14, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

"Igorot" is derogatory?[edit]

Someone (@Jojit fb) suggested over at Talk:Whang-od that the use of the term Igorot people is derogatory, bordering on libelous if used to describe a living person from this ethnic group. Is there actual basis for this suggestion? If so, is this enough ground to move the title to Cordilleran people (and Igorot society to Cordilleran society) to avoid offending this minority?--RioHondo (talk) 09:47, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I didn't request to move this article ("Igorot people") to another name. I am just saying that if a biographical article is tagged as Igorot or categorized as Igorot people then there is a big possibility that it could libelous especially if the person doesn't want to be labelled as "Igorot." One of Wikipedia's policy is avoiding libelous content because of legal considerations. --Jojit (talk) 10:49, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Seeing as this is the only wikiarticle that deals with this ethnic group (this and Igorot society), with its application and reference in common use throughout the English and even Tagalog Wikipedias, I believe we may be offending our minority here if what you are saying is true. There are a couple of articles at Category:Igorot people for instance so if this is indeed derogatory and there are no other alternative articles to box them under, we should decide ASAP to move this article where it does not insult any of our minority.--RioHondo (talk) 11:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
There are many Pilipinos who proudly identify themselves as Igorot. Yet there will always be some people who are not happy with the term. Before we rename everything because 2 or 3 people are insulted for whatever personal reason, it must be proven from reliable tertiary sources that Igorot is indeed a derogatory term, and moreover, a derogatory term in general use, not just by a few people only. -- P 1 9 9   13:56, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
My thoughts exactly. And now that you mention it, how do we really know if the person we're writing an article on is offended by the label? Or what his/her preferred label is? Who among these people from the CAR take pride in being called Igorot? For the few who take offense in being called Igorot, what shall we call them? Is there a neutral term for this ethnic group that is acceptable to all its members? I'm saying this because it's pointless to keep the article at Intsik when some Chinese Filipinos have issues with it.--RioHondo (talk) 14:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, wait for additional third parties to chime in. Look too at what the National Commission on Indigenous Peoples (Philippines) says. Also maybe move up alternative names to the intro and maybe to the first sentence or two.--Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 13:27, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

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An Igorot man in traditional costume, photographed in Banaue, Philippines.

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