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Former good article nomineeInstitute of the Good Shepherd was a Philosophy and religion good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
November 21, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed

Citations needed

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The requester should try link already given in the article, which has a sublink II b. He could also find the information in other French agencies and newspapers of 8 and 9 September 2006. Lima 04:34, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Within the SSPX?

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If they were expelled from the Society, how can they be considered still within the SSPX? 2nd Piston Honda 08:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2nd Piston is obviously right. Lima 10:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not as obvious as I thought: see footnote 8 in the article. Lima 05:23, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA nomination

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This is an excellent start toward a good article. It is well written and makes good use of citations. However, I declined to promote the article mainly because of criterion 3a. It needs better coverage of the background, history, and purpose of the institute. I give below some questions that a typical reader may ask.

  • At the start, the article assumes knowledge of Archbishop Lefebvre’s schismatic movement. Some background text would help here.
  • Were the founding members Fathers Paul Aulagnier, Philippe Laguérie, and Christophe Héry? The article does not explicitly say so. Were there anybody else? If not named, how many persons?
  • Some details surrounding the expulsion of Laguérie and Héry would be pertinent here. Were there any incidents and what were the reactions and statements of the SSPX?.
  • One motivation stated was the “discouragement of priestly vocations”. What does this mean?
  • An explanation is needed on the role of the Nanterre court and Bordeaux city council on matters that appear to be only ecclesiastical. Why are they involved?
  • The purpose is said to be a “society of apostolic life”. What does that mean? What does the society do?
  • Where is the society based? How large is it?
  • What motivated the founders to return to Rome? And how could Aulagnier resolve the contradiction of being a part of SSPX at the same time? How does Rome accept Aulagnier being part of a schismatic movement?

Not as important is criterion 6. A relevant image is not required, but it would certainly help. In any case you are on the right track. Once the article has been expanded, please renominate for GA status. --RelHistBuff 12:32, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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