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Book of Enoch?[edit]

Hi. This has the makings of a good article. I'm just a bit concerned about the inclusion of things such as that reference to the Book of Enoch - material that seems not to be connected to Islam. But I leave it in your hands. PiCo 07:58, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree. CID!!! (Consider it done!) I made the adjustments. Cheers. --How's my editing so far? Call 1-800-2GOOD4U! 12:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Guys are we missing some information here. On one hand the tradition said that Adam was missguided by Satan and as a punishment he was send to earth, now my question is if Adam was in Heaven, how come Satan reached him in Heaven and missguided him? he supposed to be out of Heaven and no access to Adam.

This is actually one of the hotly debated issues amongst islamic scholar with the regards to Adam at eden.
  • This is probably the most famous view: Iblis, prior to this incident was living amongst the angels and was not regarded as having this devil nature.
  • Some say that Iblis (satan) has the ability to misguide from distance from distance.
  • Some even say that Adam's eden is on earth, and not the actual Heaven. This view is laregly marginalised and countered by Quranic verses that infer that Adan's even is Heave. --Djihed 19:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi! I feel like one of these parts in the article should be changed or deleted since they are rather contradicting: "Islam does not ascribe mankind's life on earth as a punishment, rather as part of God's plan" "God, as a punishment, sends Adam and Eve out into the rest of the earth" Lightssword (talk) 15:20, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Deleting the controversial Tabari section[edit]

The VAST MAJORITY of Muslims do not accept Tabari's hadith as authentic, ESPECIALLY due to the so called "satanic verses". I will then delete his section. It's like putting a fairytale section on the Christianity page. -- (talk) 00:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Adam in the Qur'an[edit]

The problem should be obvious in that it's a complete quoting of nine long blocks of Qur'anic text, each prefaced with "Allah the Almighty says" and no secondary sources or even proper citation of the primary sources. I'm basically going to hide the section while I work on fixing it, as the whole thing is patently unencyclopedic. If I could get help with the following it would be extremely helpful;

  • Cleaning up the POV tone
  • Properly dealing with/citing the primary sources and trimming it down to an appropriate amount of quotation
  • Finding and citing reliable secondary sources on the subject.

I will, of course, also be working on this, but as I don't know personally of good secondary sources on this myself that's the thing I'll need the most help with. I encourage discussion on it here if anyone has any objection. Peter Deer (talk) 23:19, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Peter! I placed Quranic references from a secondary source website, owned by University of Southern California, USA. It is a reliable source because it is a respected and trusted university where people share unambiguous thoughts or whatever. The section now looks short and to the point. Thanks! Farjad0322 (talk) 03:35, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

None of the sources provided prove that Islam views Adam as the first human being created. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:24, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

References to Adam in the Qur'an[edit]

The story of Adam can be found in different verses of the Qur'an:

As well as: 2:117, 7:54, 23:12-22, 32:7-11

Merge with Main Article[edit]

There have been several other instances where figures relevant to multiple religious perspectives, particularly Prophets, have been successfully consolidated in their own main article (in this case that would be Adam) and considering how trimmed down this particular page has gotten I recommend that it be merged with the main article and this section be fleshed-out to accommodate. Peter Deer (talk) 18:35, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

This is where I reply again to ping everyone with this on their watchlist. I'm really trying not to step on any toes by doing this ("Be bold, Peter!" "Shut it, you.") Peter Deer (talk) 05:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Might as well. This one isn't too large. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 08:52, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I reverted an edit related to the creation story[edit]

I reverted this edit by Hicham Toumi (talk · contribs) for two reasons:

  1. He used the wrong template. He used {{main article}} when he probably meant to use {{quote}}. If it were just this error, I would have just fixed it.
  2. The claim in the edit summary, ou forgot to mention the fact that they were descended before covering themselves here is the verse that says so:, seems to be contradicted by this translation, which reads in part

    (20:121) Then the two of them ate the fruit of that tree and their shameful parts became revealed to each other, and they began to cover themselves with the leaves from the Garden. Thus Adam disobeyed his Lord and strayed into error. (20:122) Thereafter his Lord exalted him, accepted his repentance, and bestowed guidance upon him, (20:123) and said: "Get down, both of you, (that is, man and Satan), and be out of it; each of you shall be an enemy to the other. Henceforth if there comes to you a guidance from Me, then whosoever follows My guidance shall neither go astray nor suffer misery. (20:124) But whosoever turns away from this Admonition from Me shall have a straitened life;105 We shall raise him blind on the Day of Resurrection,

For what it's worth, the reference provided by Hicham Toumi,[1] which is the Sahih International translation, reads

[ Allah ] said, "Descend from Paradise - all, [your descendants] being enemies to one another. And if there should come to you guidance from Me - then whoever follows My guidance will neither go astray [in the world] nor suffer [in the Hereafter].

Given #2, I thought the safest thing to do was revert the change until it could be discussed. Disclaimer: I am neither a Muslim, nor an expert on the Koran or Islam, nor a reader or speaker of Arabic. I would defer anything that requires such expertise to editors who have it. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:33, 11 September 2016 (UTC)