Talk:Jim Belushi

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Question about opening statement[edit]

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WTF?? I'm no fan, but that opening sentence in unacceptable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.201.25.131 (talk) 10:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Newmar

"Belushi claimed that Newmar was trying to drive him from his home by blaring loud music directed at his house"... Who is 'Newmar'? There is no reference earlier in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cabreet (talk • contribs) 03:33, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, "Belushi is an Albanian Orthodox Christian.[5] Belushi claimed that Newmar was trying to drive him from his home by blaring loud music directed at his house, bad-mouthing him to neighbors, and destroying his property. Newmar claimed she was the victim of Belushi and had been suffering for many years, ever since he moved next door to her. In January 2006, the two announced they had settled their differences out-of-court, and later that year Newmar guest-starred on an episode of According to Jim ("The Grumpy Guy") that poked fun at the feud by having Newmar play a neighbor who annoys Belushi's character.[6]" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.68.36.96 (talk) 14:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Greek origin?[edit]

Just one question... I dont doubt about the fact that he's albanian (actually that's what himself says,so it's not my buisness) but his mother's name is Samaras,which at least as a name it's greek.Is there any explanation? 217.78.231.248 (talk) 17:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, and Alexander is a Russian name, does that make Alexander the Great Russian? (Edvin (talk) 00:03, 20 January 2012 (UTC))[reply]
Alexander is a Greek name, you stupid. And it is Alexandros the Great, not Alexander. Alexander is just the English version of the Greek name Alexandros.
Belushi is in fact of Greek origin. His father's surname was Bellios and his mother's surname was Samaras - both of them 100% Greek. There is a Greek minority of 100,000 people in southern Albania - this is where the Belushis came from. 46.190.89.112 (talk) 08:49, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Belushi is not a name of greek origin. His mother maybe is partly of greek origin. His father's name was not Bellios but Bello. Belliow is how the Greeks pronunciate this name. His father\s origin was Albanian from small village of Qyteza of Kolonja (and not Qyteza of Korcha). One Qyteza is albanian and the other vlach.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.236.47.246 (talk) 19:41, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually if you look at his genealogy you ll find that his mothers father was born in Greece — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.167.72.88 (talk) 22:58, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article for his brother John Belushi is in the category American people of Greek descent, and so should his. No one doubts their albanianhood through their father, but his mother's surname Samaras is 100% Greek. I assume she was from the Greek minority of Northern Epirus. The reference [[1]] that is used in the article to show his mother is Albanian actually contains only Greek people. Kalambaki2 (talk) 05:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They were Greeks from Albania
Jim’s paternal grandparents were named Anastas/Anastos A. Belliors/Bellios/Belushi and Vasilo Manika. -100% Greek
Jim’s maternal grandparents were named Demetri/Dimitri/Dimitrios/Demetre George/Jorgi Samaras and Anna D. Popa/Papajoseph. - 100% Greek
They were born in Korçë, now in Albania, with roots in Ziçisht and Grapsh.
1. Ziçisht - Žičište - Serbo Makedonian village close to the Greek Border
2. Grapsh [reference ] -100% Greek village

Demetri and Anna spoke Greek, but it is not clear if they were ethnically Greek, or if they identified as such. They are usually described in biographical sources on the Belushis as Albanian. [[2]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pixius (talk • contribs) 19:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality[edit]

MOS BIO does not allowing thinking in this edit. Only the nationality at time of notability may be used in the opening lead. You need to see Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Opening_paragraph which has specific examples and is followed for consistency. Part of the problem in this case is the statement, he claims. With some nationalities, claiming to be one nationality is different from what MOS BIO states. Wikipedia has standardized this. Now, in subsequent paragraphs, you can place the Albanian reference and Albanian-American. Hope this helps. --Morenooso (talk) 11:30, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki policy specifically mentions that nationality at the time of notability may be mentioned in the leading paragraph. Now, he has both citizenships as of present (American and honorary Albanian). Shouldn't we say that he is Albanian-American right now, when he is notable? I know this is a tough sell, but in Albania the honorary citizenship is given to very few people and he is one of them. Being an ambassador of Albania in the United States clearly defines him. --sulmues (talk) 11:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Only one nationality is allowed. Honorary citizenship as given to him definitely seals the deal. Chances are he received it after becoming famous. Regardless, a notable person can be X, Y and Z nationalities as per the example. If Z is the nationally at the time of notability, then Z is the only nationally allowed in the lead paragraph as per MOS BIO cited above.
Wikipedia has standardized this because when you have famous people with more than one (try three or four as per some EU countries that grant automatic dual citizenship), you can get into some nasty edit-wars. In addition there are some nationalities who want to force the POV of nationality into one that becomes NPOV or non-neutral.
Anonymous IPs have been blocked for edit-warring on this issue. Hope this helps. --Morenooso (talk) 12:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Recommendation - build a new section If you can find reliable source third party citations that state he was given honorary citizenship and ambassadorship, if I were you, I would build a new section that states and cites all those things. From my viewpoint, that would be something to see in his article. You could build it with the title, Honorary Albanian citizenship and ambassador and state, In XXXX, Belushi was granted honorary Albanian citizen. . .
Thanks good idea. And I clearly see your points. --sulmues (talk) 12:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. And when I wrote something, I probably should have used the word impressive. I am really impressed to see what you wrote about him receiving this honorary citizenship and ambassadorship. Makes me want to read more. That's why a new section would be better because you can expound on what lead up to it and his honorary rank which I imagine delights him and which he probably takes seriously. --Morenooso (talk) 12:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, if you look a little further down the MOS BIO page, honorific titles like honorary ambassadorship should not be added to the lead paragraph. This too has caused edit wars. --Morenooso (talk) 13:30, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a honorary citizenship that he received. It is a real one. Norum 21:09, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Regardless, the article states he received it in 2009 after he became famous or notable. MS BIO is very clear on that. I expect you to revert yourself. --Morenooso (talk) 21:22, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for doing the right thing. It would still be neat to read more fully how he received citizenship and ambassadorhood. --Morenooso (talk) 21:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Revert 2010-04-09[edit]

Today's edit, while accompanied by a citation, came from a gossip column and contained issues that are not allowed in a WP:BLP article. In accordance with this talkpage's header, ontentious material must be removed immediately. --Morenooso (talk) 15:50, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What happened to his bio[edit]

The second section is gone (main section after lede). Could someone restore it? ----moreno oso (talk) 19:26, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

contribution to according to jim[edit]

There has got to be more then a sentance refrence to according to jim. Hes been on it for years as the lead role and it is a huge majority of his acting career. This article does no justice for it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.230.3.250 (talk) 05:14, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Dead links and reliable sources[edit]

This link is dead, this link leads to the previous dead link, this link does not link to the claim and does not meet WP:RS standards, and this link does not link to the claim and does not meet WP:RS standards as well. Removed per WP:RS. Macedonian (talk) 01:11, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's how the standard citing templates present archived dead links. Why is that an issue? The two archive links (those would be the ones beginning "http://web.archive.org") are not dead and are therefore perfectly usable.
The linked article in the Albanian newspaper Shekulli supports the statement that he received Albanian citizenship on October 9, 2009. How and when was it determined that is not a reliable source? Fat&Happy (talk) 01:38, 18 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Pls take a look, the claim is not in Shekulli's citation given. As for nbc, it is a dead link, and web archive links are linking to the same dead link. Do they really meet WP:RS standards? Macedonian (talk) 11:31, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Uh, I took a look. I don't add or restore references without looking at them.
No, the NBC link accessed when the article title is clicked is a live link to an archived copy of the original content of the NBC site as it existed on February 6, 2009.
Yes, the (very brief) article in Shekulli, supports the statement that Belushi received Albanian citizenship on October 9, 2009. If not that, what do you claim it says? Fat&Happy (talk) 16:45, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You got me all wrong; it's not the statements that I questioned, it was whether the sources meet WP:RS standards. I apologise for the mess, I was not aware of the Wikipedia:Link rot, I just read it. Macedonian (talk) 07:09, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. See, I got that as far as NBC was concerned, but on Shekulli I thought you were questioning content. Are we good now? Fat&Happy (talk) 07:18, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sure! :) Macedonian (talk) 07:25, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Blues Brothers?[edit]

"In two episodes in 2011, Belushi was paired with Blues Brothers partner Dan Aykroyd" - wasn't that John Belushi, not Jim, according to even this Wikipedia article? 64.179.99.173 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For various reasons, Jim is considered a Blues Brother. Indeed, he was originally supposed to co-star in Blues Brothers 2000, but was unable to due to TV contractual obligations. (The character played by Joe Morton, who was written as being the illegitimate son of Cab Calloway's character from the first film, was originally intended to be Jake's biological brother and played by Jim Belushi, John's real-life brother. John Goodman's character would have been the same as the third brother, and they're would have been no kid sidekick. It would have been better, imo.) oknazevad (talk) 02:42, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fixes[edit]

Article needs, above all, more substance, persondata and proper references. - Duribald 18:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it. Span (talk) 12:28, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
shure that he was born on june the 15th?--78.48.7.194 (talk) 22:10, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Cigars[edit]

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