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Category:People from the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex removal

I have restored the category to the article after WilliamJE (talk · contribs) removed it. McCaa is obviously a member of people born in or otherwise closely associated with the Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas metropolitan area. McCaa is on the 3 weekday evening local news broadcasts as co-host for the region. In addition to having been associated with the station for nearly 30 years, it is patently obvious that the category is appropriate. I am bringing this discussion forward in accordance with the Discuss step of BRD. Hasteur (talk) 20:10, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you spent serious categorizing, you'd know people articles are categorized by town/city or county. People from Dallas, Texas, or People from Dallas County, Texas etc. People aren't supposed to be categorized by generic regions. At one time Wikipedia did it that way, not anymore. This category page is being emptied out of people by me at this time. Yesterday there were approximately 150 persons categorized here. Everyone is getting put in their proper county or town category. I just created categories for Frisco, Lancaster, and Cedar Hill Texas just today and yesterday. Find out what county or town he lives in and put him there....William 21:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

His biographical residence is not known. Please give the consensus as it seems that the consensus is a consensus of 1. Undo it because you've failed BRD... We're still discussing.Hasteur (talk) 02:07, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not a consensus of one. Here's two[1] CFD[2] discussions where the topic of categorizing by region comes up....William 12:59, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And both of those are poorly cherry picked consensuses. The top of the category page lists quite clearly what the inclusion criteria for the category is. I cite Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 42#People From Categories, Wikipedia:Categorization of people#By_place, and WP:COP#N as justifications FOR having said category association. The VPM thread, CoP by place, and COP#N discussions all are post your 2 examples therefore more reasonable to assume as the consensus.

I agree that it would be better to have a more specific categorization, but since the subject's residence isn't know and they are notable across the specific named region for being one of the anchors on the main news program for one of the big 3 networks I think that the categorization makes sense. Since we both feel that we are in the right, I will flag this thread for a 3rd Opinion to see if we can get a suggestion about how to go forward. Hasteur (talk) 17:21, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

*3OD Editor. If the 'metroplex' category is being collapsed, does this mean there will be NO greater Dallas-Ft. Worth category? Why? Was this a Bold decision, or is there consensus? Looking at WP:Category#People from the Quad Cities or other metropolitan areas that consist of more than one delineated town (Minneapolis/St Paul comes to mind) - what is the value in erasing the larger category? Drilling down is useful, but not at the cost of losing what makes sense. EBY (talk) 04:20, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hearing no response from WilliamJE to the 3rd Opinion, I am going to restore the category. No further removals should occur without first securing a consensus at a larger venue (WP:DRN, or WP:RFC). Hasteur (talk) 16:18, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And again we have edit warring regarding the category. WilliamJE aparently doesn't like reading talk pages. So more evidence to go on the heap.

Subject is exceptionally associated with WFAA-TV as patently obvious in the LEAD of the page.
The WFAA article states in the very first paragraph WFAA, channel 8, is an ABC-affiliated television station licensed to Dallas, Texas and serving the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex.
WFAA article has Category:Television stations in the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex.

ERGO... It does make sense to show a overall regional approach over a single city metro area (Such as Houston). Hasteur (talk) 16:55, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Response to third opinion request: Category:People from the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex removal|-

I am responding to a third opinion request for this page. I have made no previous edits on John McCaa and have no known association with the editors involved in this discussion. The third opinion process is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes.

Per categorization guidelines, "...if a page belongs to a subcategory of C (or a subcategory of a subcategory of C, and so on) then it is not normally placed directly into C." If the exact location of a person's residence is unknown but it is known that the person resides in a wider area (higher level category), then the person should be listed in the higher category until more specific information is available from a reliable source. John McCaa is known to live in Irving in Dallas County, Texas.

DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 21:34, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

His home

Is in the Las Colinas community[3]. Which is Irving, Texas. He goes in people from Irving, Texas....William 16:53, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There is this too[4]....William 17:04, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And this[5]. 4719 Byron Circle, Irving Texas....William 17:07, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And another[6]....William 17:13, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And another[7]....William 17:20, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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