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Colors

From the K-State website: The school color Royal Purple was adopted in the fall of 1896 by a committee of “Miss Minnie L. Copeland, Jr. and Miss Winnifred Houghton and Miss Ina E. Holyrod, of the senior class, and perhaps one or more others.” Although K-State’s only official color is purple, white has been used as a complimentary color for many years. Silver is also a common second or third color. Former head basketball coach Cotton Fitzsimmons incorprated gold during his two-year stint (1968-70), but gold or yellow has not been used since that time. The term “Purple Pride,” which is often used in association with KSU athletics, was given rise during the tenure of head football coach Vince Gibson (1967-74).^[1]

I think white should be listed as well.Topgun530 (talk) 18:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the cite you give makes clear that only Royal Purple should be listed as the school color, since it is in fact the only official color. Otherwise, how do we pick the second color to list, since white, silver and black are all used as "secondary" colors? Notably, this makes Kansas State fairly unique among schools. -Kgwo1972 (talk) 18:49, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All-time record

According to Chris Stassen and James Howell's websites, the team has an all-time record of 453–598–41, as of the end of the 2008 season.^[2] According to KSU, the record is 452-598-41. The difference lies in 1919, when Stassen and Howell show KSU defeating Emporia State 12-0. It would be great if someone could clear up this issue. In the meantime, we'll go with the university's numbers. -Kgwo1972 (talk) 21:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have confirmed the university is correct: there was no game against Emporia State in 1919. -Kgwo1972 (talk) 21:52, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All-time record v. conferences

The compilation done by Stassen is great, but it's wrong in some places -- if you follow through on his OWN links. The 1-1 record against South Carolina is wrongly counted for the ACC because USC was in the Southern Conference at the time. I'm pretty sure the numbers on this page were correct before they were changed to Stassen's numbers. I'll look into it. -Kgwo1972 (talk) 23:22, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, the numbers were all correct before. Stassen missed the win over La-Lafayette in 1994 as a Big West win; the correct series data was 10-2. He missed two losses to Cincinnati in 1951 and 1952 as MAC games; the correct series data was 7-3. The SEC series was properly 3-12 due to a forfeit by Mississippi State. Finally, he missed the 2-2 record against Oklahoma and Oklahoma State from 1915 to 1919 as SWC games; the correct series data was 7-13. I'll revert the standings to what they were before on this page. -Kgwo1972 (talk) 02:51, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By Conference: Correct as of End of 2018 Season
Division I Conference	Wins	Losses	Ties	Games
ACC	3	1	0	Wake Forest (1-1) Miami (2-0)
Big Ten	6	21	0	Illinois (0-1) Indiana (2-3) Iowa (1-5) Michigan (1-0) Michigan St. (0-3) (1956-58) Minnesota (2-1) Northwestern (0-2) Ohio State (0-1) Purdue (0-3) Wisconsin (0-2)
Conference USA	10	0	0	Central Fla (1-0) (2010) Cincinnati (1-0) (1996) Florida Atlantic (1-0) (2016) La. Tech (1-0) (2015) Marshall (2-0) (2005, 06) UNC-Charlotte (1-0) (2017) UTEP (1-0) (2014) UTSA (2-0) (2015, 2018)
MAC	8	3	0	Akron (1-0) Ball St. (1-0) Bowling Green (1-0) Cincinnati (0-2) (1951, 52) Kent (1-0) Marshall (0-1) (2003) N. Ill. (2-0) (1997, 98) Ohio (1-0) UMass (1-0) (2013)
Pac-12	8	11	0	Arizona (0-1) (1978) Arizona St. (1-2) (1982, 89, 02) Cal (1-0) Oregon (0-1) Oregon St. (1-0) Stanford (0-1) UCLA (2-2) USC (2-0) Washington (1-4)
SEC	4	16	0	Arkansas (0-2) (2012, 2015) Auburn (0-4) Florida (0-2) Kentucky (1-3) LSU (0-1) Miss. St. (1-2) (incl.forfeit) Tenn. (1-0) Texas A&M (1-0) (2016) Vanderbilt (0-2)
Sun Belt	11	1	0	Florida Atlantic (1-0) (2006) Florida Int'l (1-0) La-Lafayette (3-1) La-Monroe (1-0) New Mexico St. (1-0) (2001) North Texas (4-0) (2005, 08, 10, 12)
Big East Conference	4	6	0	Boston College (0-1) (1994) Louisville (0-2) (2006, 08) Rutgers (0-1) (2006) Syracuse (1-2) Temple (3-0)
Big West	10	2	0	Long Beach St. (0-1) La-Lafayette (1-0) (1994) N.M. State (3-0) (1990-93) North Texas (1-0) (2000) N. Illinois (1-0) (1995) Pacific (1-0) (1974) UNLV (2-0) Utah St. (1-1) (1992, 99)
Border Conference	0	8	1	Arizona (0-3-1) (1941-60) Hardin-Simmons (0-1) New Mexico (0-2) (1946, 47) UTEP (0-1) (1947) Texas Tech (0-1) (1933)
Missouri Valley (1928-1985)	22	20	1	Bradley (1-0) Cincinnati (0-2) (1965, 66) Creighton (1-0) (1937) Drake (2-1) (1953-81) Memphis (2-0) (1971-73) Oklahoma St. (2-6) (1928-56) St. Louis (0-1) Tulsa (6-8-1) (1935-81) Washburn (2-0) (1937, 38) Washington (StL) (1-0) (1933) Wichita St. (5-2-1) (1950-85)
Mountain States/Skyline	5	7	0	BYU (1-0) (1957) Colorado (1-1) (1939-40) Colorado St. (1-1) (1953-54) Utah St. (0-1) (1958) Wyoming (2-4) (1952-58)
Southern Conference	1	1	0	South Carolina (1-1) (1940, 41)
Southwest Conference	7	13	0	Arkansas (1-1) (1926, 27) Baylor (1-0) Oklahoma (1-2) (1915-19) Oklahoma St. (1-0) (1917) Rice (1-0) (1994) Texas (1-2) (1926-42) Texas A&M (0-3) (1929-76) TCU (1-3) (1983-86) Texas Tech (0-2) (1963, 86)
WAC	13	12	0	Arizona (1-1) (1962, 69) Arizona St. (0-3) (1963-97) BYU (3-4) (1964-72, 1997) Colorado St. (2-0) (1968, 95) Fresno St. (0-2) (2004, 07) La. Tech (1-0) (2001) New Mexico (1-2) (1964-90) Rice (1-0) (1996) San Jose St. (1-0) Wyoming (2-0) (1983, 93)
Rocky Mountain	2	1	0	Colorado (1-0) (1912) Colorado College (0-1) (1910) Colorado St. (1-0) (1908)

By Team: Correct as of End of 2018 Season
Team	Div. I Conference	Season(s) Played	Results
Akron	MAC	1995	1–0
Arizona	Border	1941, 1946, 1953, 1960	0–3–1
	WAC	1962, 1969	1–1
	Pac-12	1978	0–1
Arizona State	WAC	1964, 1970, 1972	0–3
Arizona State	Pac-12	1982, 1989, 2002	1–2
Arkansas	SWC	1926, 1927	1–1
Arkansas	SEC	2012, 2015	0–2
Auburn	SEC	1978–79, 2007, 2014	0–4
Ball State	MAC	2000	1–0
Baylor	SWC	1969	1–0
Baylor	Big 12	1998–present	8–7
Boston College	Big East	1994	0–1
Bowling Green	MAC	1952	1–0
Bradley	Missouri Valley	1952	1–0
BYU	Skyline	1957	1–0
BYU	WAC	1963, 1965, 1971–72, 1976–77, 1997	3–4
Cal-Berkeley	Pac-12	2003	1–0
Central Florida	Conference USA	2010	1–0
Cincinnati	MAC	1951–52	0–2
	Missouri Valley	1965–66	0–2
	Conference USA	1996	1–0
Colorado	Rocky Mountain	1912	1–0
	Skyline	1939–40	1–1
	Big Eight	1948–95	10–37–1
	Big 12	1996–2010	8–7
Colorado College	Rocky Mountain	1910	0–1
Colorado State	Rocky Mountain	1908	1–0
	Skyline	1953–54	1–1
	WAC	1967–68, 1995	3–0
Creighton	Missouri Valley	1937	1–0
Drake	Big Eight	1924–25	0–2
Drake	Missouri Valley	1953–54, 1981	2–1
Florida	SEC	1947, 1973	0–2
Florida Atlantic	Sun Belt	2006	1–0
Florida Atlantic	Conference USA	2016	1–0
Florida International	Sun Belt	2005	1–0
Fresno State	WAC	2004, 2007	0–2
Hardin-Simmons	Border	1946	0–1

References

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^ "Stassen's All-Time Records of Kansas State" (English). Retrieved 2008-11-30.

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