Talk:King Wu of Zhou
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I removed this sentense:
Here is the original text of the legend: http://www.buddhist-canon.com/history/T490962a.htm I don't think it is worth noting.
As a historical source, the legend of Dangun in Samguk Yusa is of no value. It was written at the end of the 13th century. The details are based on Chinese sources.
As a matter of convenience I didn't mention it at Dangun, but Samguk Yusa referred to him as King Ho (虎王) to avoid the use of the character 武, which was used in the name of someone noble (I don't remember). --Nanshu 01:00, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
- The sentence was pasted from the King Wu page which in turn stemmed from the Dangun article. The above explanation shall clarify some mysteries about the term "King Wu" kt2 01:07, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Zhou Gong Dan
He's also an important figure in Chinese history. We need some help to expanding the article about him.
Could someone check the transliteration of the given name on the page? Right now it reads "fa1". -Rholton 02:02, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, it's fā. I've corrected it.--G.S.K.Lee 05:05, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Well, Fā, but yeah. Added it to the running text as well. — LlywelynII 03:30, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
This article obviously needs to be expanded. King Wu is a major figure since he founded the Zhou Dynasty, which ruled for longer than any other dynasty in Chinese history.
I recently read the Shu Ching (I think that's how it's spelled), which is the Book of Historical Documents, one of the Confucian classics. King Wu is an impportant figure in part of the text, when he leads his army against the Shang. He makes speeches to his army about the Mandate of Heaven, and how the Shang have abused the right to rule, making it neccesary to overthrow the dynasty. This is significant because this concept of gaining or losing the right to rule by virtue is a key Confucian concept, as well as one that has played a large part in Chinese history.
I guess I could add a little to this article based on what I read, but I think more knowledgeable people could do a much better job. --Anonymous
- THe dates given in the French article are quite different and that does have a source though perhaps not reliable.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 05:15, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
星光下的人, Every entry for members of the Zhou family on WP states that the surname was Ji. Until you can provide a reference to back this change up or gain a concensus from other editors it should stay as it is. Philg88 (talk) 22:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Please tell me which page said Ji was surname?Where are their source?
- Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources
- Thus Wikipedia articles (or Wikipedia mirrors) are not reliable sources for any purpose.
- 不要欺人太甚—星光下的人 (talk) 00:48, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Which says what, exactly? — LlywelynII 17:30, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Don't use them in the running text. Cf. NC-ZH, MOS-ZH, USEENGLISH, COMMONNAME, &c. — LlywelynII 17:30, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
The first edits to the page started with BC/AD, so that remains the convention. — LlywelynII 17:31, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Seriously, it's terrible; don't restore it. The semicolons make simplified characters and pinyin look like their own languages. The pinyin and Wade are badly formatted (one's italicized, one isn't). It generally wastes far too much space. All of this has been noted on the template's talk page, but the creator still has not fixed it, so we should just avoid its use in our articles. — LlywelynII 03:28, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
The title "King Wu"
Sima Qian started using his regnal dates within Zhou as though he were the rightful king even before the battle of Muye, but had he established it as an era name? or was it a posthumous name or temple name granted by his descendants? or was it some kind of actual regnal name? We should be clear within the article, to the best of our ability, instead of using it anachronistically of him as a child.
Likewise, his father wasn't "King Wen" until the first meeting at the ford. — LlywelynII 03:28, 5 November 2012 (UTC)