Talk:LGBTQ rights in France

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the LGBTQ rights in France article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

France Mid‑importance

	France portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject France, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of France on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FranceWikipedia:WikiProject FranceTemplate:WikiProject FranceFrance articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Human rights Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Human rights, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Human rights on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Human rightsWikipedia:WikiProject Human rightsTemplate:WikiProject Human rightsHuman rights articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

LGBTQ+ studies

This article is of interest to WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all LGBTQ-related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, please visit the project page or contribute to the discussion.LGBTQ+ studiesWikipedia:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studiesTemplate:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studiesLGBTQ+ studies articles

Politics Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Guild of Copy Editors

This article was copy edited by Spock of Vulcan, a member of the Guild of Copy Editors, on 26 January 2011.Guild of Copy EditorsWikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy EditorsTemplate:WikiProject Guild of Copy EditorsGuild of Copy Editors articles

progressive?

Isn't the word "progressive" in the opening line rather POV?

POV and quite strange, if you compare France to Massachussetts or Netherlands. Arronax50 01:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ronline is last good version

GLGerman 18:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Germany

I am from Germany and the situation here is since the last 15 years grewing better and well tolerated like in the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain or Scandinavia. We have since five years in the whole country a civil union for gay couples near to marriage and in our largest cities Berlin and Hamburg open gay mayors rule.GLGerman 11:38, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

connect with the French article?

Somehow it seems strange that this page doesn't connect with any article in the French Wikipédia. And yet I'm not sure with which article it should connect. For example, the article "Mouvement de libération gaie" talks about gay lib movements from various countries. I'm not sure if there's something specific to France in the French Wikipédia. Anyone have any ideas?scotteaux 23:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Overseas collectivities

Do the laws regarding LBGT-rights in continental France (and French Guiana) also apply to all of its overseas collectivities (e.g. French Polynesia)? LightPhoenix (talk) 17:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oversea départements: yes. Others: unsure. David.Monniaux (talk) 11:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stepchild adoption for PACS

As i read stepchild adoption for PACS is allowed. France high court ruled two ore three years ago. 80.226.52.244 (talk) 22:05, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption rights in France for gay couples

Tetu:La Cour de cassation ouvre une brèche vers l'adoption pour les couples homos (french) 92.252.110.41 (talk) 00:12, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Extensive copyediting

Don't have time to do this myself, but I have tagged it for multiple reasons. Notable is the "Public opinion" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CavinSays (talk • contribs) 20:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Access to IVF for lesbians

The graph at the end of the article states that French lesbians couples have equal access to IVF, which, as of this day, isn't the case.

The issue has been widely debated in France a little while ago, and was a part of Francois Hollande campaign's program. However, the massive protests that were held across the country following the voting of marriage / adoption equality bill prompted him to back off on this particular point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.202.184.39 (talk) 20:44, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mayotte

The article LGBT rights in Mayotte redirects to this article. However, we do not discuss Mayotte here at all. The Mayotte article, discussing the legal system before 2001, states, "...the peculiar local administration of Mayotte, largely ruled by customary Muslim law, would be difficult to integrate into the legal structures of France, not to mention the costs of bringing the standards of living to levels close to those of Metropolitan France. For these reasons, the laws passed by the national parliament had to state specifically that they applied to Mayotte for them to be applicable on Mayotte." In 2011, Mayotte became an overseas department of France. "Becoming an overseas department will mean it will adopt the same legal and social system as used in the rest of France. This will require abandoning some customary laws, adopting the standard French civil code, and reforming the judiciary, educational, social and fiscal systems, and will take place over a period of about 20 years." So, I don't think we can assume that LGBT rights in Mayotte in 2014 are the same as in the rest of France. Perhaps we need a separate "LGBT rights in Mayotte" article, but until that gets written, can someone who knows about this add a section here? Peter Chastain ^{[habla, por favor]} 06:27, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on LGBT rights in France. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20081031001759/http://www.iglhrc.org:80/files/iglhrc/reports/990604-antidis.pdf to http://www.iglhrc.org/files/iglhrc/reports/990604-antidis.pdf

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 13:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on LGBT rights in France. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140203151651/http://www.ilga-europe.org/home/news/latest/france_adds_sexual_identity_to_the_protected_grounds_of_discrimination to http://www.ilga-europe.org/home/news/latest/france_adds_sexual_identity_to_the_protected_grounds_of_discrimination

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 17:57, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on LGBT rights in France. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 10:32, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Too much description of Conversion therapy

In the conversation therapy section, the first portion gives a definition in too much depth considering the main article of conversation therapy exists. I think this initial description, up until "psychological rape" should be removed from the article as it is not specifically related to conversion therapy in France, but conversation therapy in general. I believe such should be removed from this article and moved to the main article.

If people think this is a valid idea, I shall do so, but am willing to listen to other opinions before making such a major edit. OmarRihani7777777 (talk) 00:10, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Internal wikilink to other languages

How do we link to a foreign language page? I’n trying to link to the pages for DILCRAH and L’Observatoire de la Petite Sirene but can’t because they’re only in French Snokalok (talk) 13:01, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Noteworthyness of WW2 period under the "Sodomy" paragraph?

Is the mention noteworthy because it is a place currently occupied by France which also saw stricter LGBT+ persecution during WW2 or is it noteworthy because France lost control over the area?

In either case, this should prompt a discussion of the period between 1871-1918 as Germany had also control over the area in question during this time. What were the laws in that period if it is noteworthy to include periods of stricter laws or other countries owning an area? Or is the insinuation (which isn't allowed anyhow by Wikipedia standards...) that the laws were unchanged when Alsace & Lorraine were part of Germany between 1871 and 1918? 142.207.85.25 (talk) 08:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]