Talk:Lawful interception

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Snail Mail?[edit]

Is this phrase ever used with regards to snail mail against which warrants have been taken out? --Daniel C. Boyer 19:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


Overall good article with good references. Could use some work as far as grammer and article format. →James Kidd (contr/talk/email) 03:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Illegal use?[edit]

Should a discussion be added about the potential for illicit use of systems designed for lawful interception?

Having been involved in installing lawful interception systems in Ericsson brand exchanges in Europe, but not Greece, and having watched this story develop, I'm fairly certain that the story referenced relates to the subversion of lawful intercept systems for unlawful purposes.

DMcMPO11AAUK 03:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I've now added a comment in the article about this incident. DMcMPO11AAUK 09:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Vendor links[edit]

Do we really need all/any of these vendor links? JanCeuleers 18:57, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Merge proposal[edit]

It seems to me that Lawful interception and Telephone tapping are about the exact same thing ? Peet Ern (talk) 05:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Lawful interception is just legal jargon for wiretapping, which points to this page. If anything, the Lawful Interception page should be taken down as a near duplicate article with an obscure alternate name. It is my position that this article remain, and a subsection entitled "Lawful Interception" be inserted.--Bodybagger (talk) 20:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

The following comment appears to be added by Trutkowski. It has been moved moved from the article page

____The utility of merging, however, seem dubious as "telephone tapping" is a narrow, legacy subject that is almost irrelevant today.

Shouran (talk) 06:30, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

imho these two articles should not be merged. Lawful Intercept is the legal interception of traffic by telecommunications operators in response to instruction by law enforcement agencies, and captures not only (on request) the communications content but also the call data - from, to, time etc. Wire- or telephone tapping essentially only captures the conversation, and may also refer to doing so in an illegal or un-sanctioned way. (unsigned, no date)

I would say that "telephone tapping" is largely about techniques; as there's no article on "telephone recording", at the moment the tapping article is the only place I can find for technical info on phone recording, which may be perfectly legal if done by a party to the conversation. There may be overlap between telephone recording laws and "lawful interception"; both these articles should, in my opinion, deal with rules and regulations rather than techniques—the techniques are largely common to lawful (by government agency), illegal, and legal recording by a party. Pol098 (talk) 12:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with "unsigned" above that they should not be merged. 10-15 years ago, the two would be mostly synonymous. Tapping, IMO, generally refers to the physical act of connecting monitoring equipment to the line to be monitored. Historically, this occurred on a one warrant, one tap, one recorder, etc. basis. In a purely circuit-switched (rotary switch) environment, this was also the "LI". Today, the tap can be placed on a ciruit or IP switched line carrying many different users which must be distinguished and filtered by the LI process. Additionally, with modern technology, there is the potential of a warrant applying to one person's electronic communications (vice a single phone number), and could include landline, mobile, IP, email, VOIP and other forms of electronic communication. Bootom-line, I believe tapping should refer to the physical process/technique of accessing "the wire" and be a component of the overall LI process. CAK 7 AUG 09—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

This article expands the section Telephone_tapping#Official use. In fact, it figures as "main article" for that section. So I guess it should not be merged, but redundant content may be moved. --ColdWind (talk) 17:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree that this article shouod NOT be merged. Lawful Interception is a requirement that telecom equipment vendors must comply to, the technical means by which this is provided is not relevant to the legal requirement. As an analogy, the concept of capital punishment should not be merged with an article discussing the ways and means to carry out an execution. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC).

I oppose a merge, too. LI is a well defined term in the telco world, has a broader focus and a different angle than "telephone tapping". Wefa (talk) 12:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Citation for Europe paragraph[edit]

The last two sentences of the first paragraph in the Europe section appear to have been lifted (verbatim) from this website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:42, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Global LI Industry forum link dead?[edit]

The link goes to a page fully in Japanese - which seems not to be very technical. Is that the right page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:20, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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