Talk:Lederhosen
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It is interesting when it is discarded
[edit]In Europe Lederhosen are usually associated with the kind of humorous soft-porn films that come out of Bavaria, with twin-ponytail blonde high-school girls and men in knee trousers. These movies are such a crap that they are actually funny. 82.131.210.162 08:26, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- What a nonsense. You're mixing things. You're probably refering to "school girl and teacher" porn movies that were inspired by the Schulmädchen-Report. I am not aware that this crap is exclusively coming from Bavaria, neither am I aware that lederhosen are a fundamental part of such movies. Furthermore lederhosen are not commonly associated with sexuality. I myself had a typical lederhose when I was a little boy (that kind of lederhose small boys are wearing in Heimatfilms). Believe me if you ask random Germans about "lederhosen", they will think about: Bavaria, Alps, Oktoberfest and Heimatfilm but nothing else and I am pretty sure that people from outside of Germany will connect it with Bavaria and Oktoberfest. Arnomane 18:51, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I am from the USA and my last name is Lederhos. My ancestors probably had something to do with the original creation of the Lederhosen. I think of Lederhosen as what they are. Not associated with anything sexual. Unless I am wearing them. Then they are very sexy. :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.222.28.93 (talk) 05:07, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Is it a coincidence that note 1 is provided by "A Bender?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.169.186.10 (talk) 15:46, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]The article gives the pronunciation as /ˈleɪdɚhoʊzən/. Now I am not a native speaker of either English or German, but I think that after having studied German for two years and having made about ten visits to both Germany and Austria, I know a little about how German is pronounced. Therefore I think that the "ɪ" sound doesn't belong there. JIP | Talk 19:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Agree, please feel free to correct it accordingly. JGHowes talk 19:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- According to the English Wiktionary article, the original German pronunciation and the English pronunciation differ. The German pronunciation does not have the "ɪ" sound, but the English pronunciation does. I just never learned the English pronunciation, because I learned German as a native speaker of Finnish, not English. I have edited the article to mention both pronunciations. JIP | Talk 20:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- The International pronunciation specifies that the ei combination has an ā sound as in face which is totally appropriate. 2601:581:4500:6A6A:BD53:8D6:7DE4:495 (talk) 11:07, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Boy's lederhosen
[edit]That photo, with its absence of head and strangely bulging crotch, is kind of creepy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.93.226.146 (talk) 00:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
- I went to the German page to see if there were better pictures and it's even stranger there. I half-expected to see NAMBLA in the "See Also" section. Can someone find a better photo? - 209.6.146.164 (talk) 18:39, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
RIGHT you are when you hint at the "bulging crotch". Those boys' shorts had a tendency to have this shape.This is because of the stiff leather, not of anything else that may get stiff. Until denim and other international styles of casual wear took over in the 1960s and 70s boys wore those durable shorts from May till September. You could not ruin them, no matter whether you climbed over barbed wire fences or up trees or slid down sandy cliffs at the Baltic coast. Cleaning needed no more than a wet sponge. I remember that I wore mine for the last time in late summer shortly after I had grown 13 years old, then I felt ashamed in them and put them aside, hardly ever to put on any shorts again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:79:AE20:5F01:A072:E956:7A0B:3CA1 (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Since it seems that nobody bothered to look, here are the AOL search results for boys lederhosen. https://search.aol.com/aol/image;_ylt=AwrB8poUCHFaJXEAYbxjCWVH;_ylu=X3oDMTBsZ29xY3ZzBHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEc2xrA2J1dHRvbg--;_ylc=X1MDMTE5NzgwMzg3NQRfcgMyBGFjdG4DY2xrBGJjawNudWxsBGNzcmNwdmlkA3ZBMTROREV3TGpGMkRabjM3TUxMM0FQcU1UY3pMZ0FBQUFBNWlYQlcEZnIDBGdwcmlkAzNRWjZweHNUU1hDbk1sUjZPa2tWeUEEbXRlc3RpZANudWxsBG5fc3VnZwMwBG9yaWdpbgNzZWFyY2guYW9sLmNvbQRwb3MDMARwcXN0cgMEcHFzdHJsAwRxc3RybAMxNQRxdWVyeQNib3lzIGxlZGVyaG9zZW4EdF9zdG1wAzE1MTczNTcwODUEdnRlc3RpZANudWxs?gprid=3QZ6pxsTSXCnMlR6OkkVyA&pvid=vA14NDEwLjF2DZn37MLL3APqMTczLgAAAAA5iXBW&fr2=sb-top-search.aol.com&q=boys+lederhosen&v_t=loki-tb-sb&s_it=sb_top&ei=UTF-8&n=60&x=wrt&s_qt= 173.86.53.238 (talk)
Umm...
[edit]People who died from having too short lederhosen? wtf? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.151.195 (talk) 00:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, it cuts off circulation. lol 173.86.53.238 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:07, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
My (late, American) Father reports when he last wore his lederhosen (in central Germany about 1966), he was accosted by a German who angrily informed him that "Das ist ein Idiotisch kostum!" At present I am teaching German in Australia and I have the self-same lederhosen in my possession. I'm debating whether to wear it tomorrow (the last day of term, and my last day at the school). But...probably not!
Leisure or work wear?
[edit]The intro says that Lederhosen was/is leisure-wear, but the beginning of the main text classifies the clothing as work-wear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.170.99.212 (talk) 12:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
- I've worn lederhosen as work clothing. They are unbelievably comfortable once they're broken in (an hour or two of active use will usually do it). The most counter-intuitive aspect is how cool these short pants can keep you in hot humid weather. Working as a landscaper (lots of shovel and pick-axe) in San Diego CA heat, my leathers stood up to levels of punishment that shredded my co-worker's denims. After two years, they still cleaned up like new. I got them when I was 12 (boys pants, no stitching, patent finish) and they stretched with me as I grew, with no loss of strength or comfort. I lost them in a flood when I was 31.
- Lederhosen should be made from deer or goat skin, which is soft and supple, and breaths to keep you cool. Cow leather is not a flexible or tear resistant, and thus has to be thicker, stiffer, and won't breathe as well. DK (talk) 13:11, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly. First, it should be mentioned that most peasants couldn’t have afforded these leather pants. The costume was created for those with some means who did not belong to a particular profession and therefore didn’t have an official dress. However, more well to do farmers wore them in the summer when tending to the livestock on the alps for just the reasons DL mentions. They were also worn as summer clothes by the middle and upper children. And, later on became popular with the aristocracy as hunting costumes. 2601:581:4500:6A6A:BD53:8D6:7DE4:495 (talk) 11:14, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
A german says: Its NOT a traditional costume
[edit]Hey i life in Germany and this pants are '''ONLY''' a traditional wear in the alp-region (Bavaria, Austria and Switzerland). But its NOT typical for Germany. In north , east and westgermany are no one wear that clothes. Its only a alp-clothes. but the most of germany are NOT at the Alps. Or wear all americans cowboyclothes ? :D --IchHier--15er (talk) 14:37, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
- The third sentence of the article states that Lederhosen are not a traditional national costume. Wahrmund (talk) 16:50, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- They are also usually not worn in Switzerland. It's almost exclusively Austrian, Bavarian and some adjectant areas.
- I don't know if any blanket statement about German customs can be accurate. Austria, Switzerland, and Germany are Big Places. I agree with the OP that lederhosen are stereotypical wear for the alp-region, but stereotypes are no more accurate in Germany than they are anywhere else in the world. I personally wore lederhosen daily, as did many of my friends. I lived in Nordrhein Westfalen, which is quite a bit north of Bavaria. My parents hailed from Schleswig Holstein, which is about as far from Bavaria as you can get and stay in Germany. I finally got rid of the lederhosen when I moved to the States in the early 70s. Mind, that was a while ago, and fashion and customs have likely changed since I was a lad. Hmoulding (talk) 20:27, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
--78.104.63.147 (talk) 18:45, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
The article states that "they were not usually worn in southwestern Germany or Switzerland." Wahrmund (talk) 21:25, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Joke Article
[edit]This article does not appear to take the topic seriously. It sites no sources, and the wording (think "sadly-breeches") makes it seem like one big joke. Not to mention the picture of the man wearing a boy's pair of lederhosen. -- IronMaidenRocks (talk) 02:42, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
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