Talk:Lester Brain

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This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on October 29, 2011.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
April 9, 2010	Good article nominee	Listed
April 12, 2010	WikiProject A-class review	Approved
April 25, 2010	Featured article candidate	Promoted
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 8, 2010. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that civil aviation pioneer Lester Brain* declined a knighthood in the 1960s, but accepted appointment as an Officer of the Order of Australia in 1979?*
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GA Review

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Reviewer: Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 19:46, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well written

(a) the prose is clear and the spelling and grammar are correct: Well written
(b) it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, jargon, words to avoid, fiction, and list incorporation: no WP:MOS concerns

Factually written and verifiable

(a) it provides references to all sources of information in the section(s) dedicated to the attribution of these sources according to the guide to layout: Well referenced
(b) it provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines: Inline citations are appropriate, however certain sections contain paragraphs cited entirely by one source. While this is OK, you might consider duplicating the reference instead of just leaving it at the end if that paragraph cites specific details, such as birth dates and monitary figures as occurs in the "early life" section. Still, this is just advice for improvement, not a GA concern.
(c) it contains no original research: No indication of original research

Broad in its coverage

(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic: A well-covered subject, to the point of being a potential FA candidate. Well done.
(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).: The article goes into detail, but not inappropriately. The article can easily be followed by the reader.

Neutral

it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias.: Article is very neutral and unbiased

Stable

it does not change significantly from day-to-day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.: Article is stable

Illustrated, if possible

(a) images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content: All images tagged as PD
(b) images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions: Images are relevant and useful, with captions

General comments

This is a well-written article, and a clear featured article contender. The article is in-depth and well referenced and the prose is very clear. Very well done.

Overall

Easily passes GA --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 22:12, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for taking the time to review/comment, Shirik -- Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:06, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cross referencing

I'm not suggesting alterations to this or any other article, but it's certainly interesting how things cross-reference. This article describes Brain, in April of 1929, finding a plane which crashed while looking for another plane, the Southern Cross, "reported missing on a record attempt from Sydney to England ..." Naturally I wondered what became of the Southern Cross, and when I read that article, it mentions the Southern Cross's flights in May/June 1928 (US to Australia) and September 1928 (Australia to New Zealand and back) but does not mention an Australia to England flight in 1929. And, when I read the article on the Broome air raid, the total casualties were given as 88 (in this article they are 70) and Brain's presence and actions are not mentioned.

Again, I'm not complaining. I realize the three articles are almost certainly by three separate primary authors, and that it's my job as much as anyone else's to add useful information from one article to another, or research primary sources to reconcile discrepancies. In the end, all I did was cross reference the Broome air raid article to this one. But I found these other items to be interesting examples of the difficulties of achieving consistency, so I thought I'd share. Gms3591 (talk) 08:46, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fair comment, and thanks for linking the Broome raid article -- I didn't know about that one. I'll be interested to see the sources in the raid article. As to Southern Cross, I don't know but perhaps they even abandoned the flight to England after they had their mishap described here -- one would have to consult other sources, but that's peripheral to this article... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:28, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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