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Requested move 17 April 2017

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The result of the move request was: No consensus at this time — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:21, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lin Rong-San → Lin Rong-san – WP:CHINESE Alexander Iskandar (talk) 14:21, 17 April 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 01:55, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, according to WP:CHINESE, names are done in Wade-Giles that way, and apparently Tiawan still clings to this. On the other hand, Googling his name brings up several "Ling Rong San"'s (no hyphen) right at the top. Going further down brings up lots of hyphenated examples, but these seem about equally split between "Lin Rong-San" and "Lin Rong-san"... so I dunno.

WP:CHINESE gives several examples such as "Sun Yat-sen", but these seem to be figures from previous generations. The article Wade-Giles says "In mainland China it has been entirely replaced by the Hanyu Pinyin system... Outside mainland China, it has mostly been replaced by Pīnyīn, even though Taiwan implements a multitude of Romanization systems in daily life". So it seems up like a rather fluid situation... I'm not convinced that we need to render this person's name in Wade-Giles format... he is somewhat modern, although granted not that modern as he was born in 1939, 19 years before Pinyin was adopted in mainland China. Certainly in the early part of his life his name would like have been romanized as "Ling Ron-san"... it's a complicated question and I'm not able to offer an informed opinion, but if pressed, I would suggest that a quick search seems to indicate that Lin Rong San might be the best title. Herostratus (talk) 02:53, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with "Wade-Giles". "Lin", "Rong", and "San" are all pinyin, the Wade-Giles equivalent is Lin Jung-san. I don't oppose Lin Rong San though. Timmyshin (talk) 12:54, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: Another troublesome name, this guy was 76 years old (b. 1939 – d. 2015), that would suggest his name would have followed Wade-Giles format, i.e. Lin Jung-San. If you do a search, his name pops up as Lin Rung-san, Rong-San Lin, Jung-San Lin, Lin Rung San, Lin Jung San, Lin Jung-san. If I were to choose, it would either be "Lin Rongsan" (Hanyu Pinyin) or "Lin Jung-san" (Wade-Giles, most likely format). No other spelling or format. — Czgsq (talk) 09:41, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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