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"The Cloverfield Paradox" only branded as "A Netflix film"
[edit]Thats a strange one. Afaiks 'The Cloverfield Paradox' is only branded as "A Netflix film", not "A Netflix Original film", like all the others. That is when it comes to the branding in the actual movie, Netflix has it listed as original: https://media.netflix.com/en/only-on-netflix/208290. - Then again, the Netflix Media Center has a lot of errors in it... Anybody know what to make of this? -Abyss Taucher (talk) 05:28, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- It seems that "a netflix film" is just a new brand for Netflix Original movies (I've seen that Mute, Benji, The Ritual and some others are also branded "A Netflix Film", so I think it's no big deal) Armos (talk) 05:46, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, just found that out myself. I still find it strange, but you're probably right.-Abyss Taucher (talk) 06:01, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Yeah. A Netflix film, a netflix original movie. Its the same thing i think. TheMovieGuy (talk) 06:57, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
In Japan Netflix official website, Netflix claims to be 'Hell or High Water' is a Netflix original film, BUT it is not! This is just a propaganda trick!
- In USA Netflix official website, Netflix claims to be 'What Happened to Monday?' is a Netflix original, BUT it is not! This is just a propaganda trick!
- It's not "a propaganda trick"... The "orginal" branding is convoluted, that's all. "Netflix Original" can mean a) content that was commissioned to be produced for Netflix (HoC for example), b) content that would be better described as "Netflix Exclusiv", because Netflix shows it first in a region ("Hell or High Water" is such a case IIRC) and c) content that Netflix bought with rights to show it first in general and brand it "Netflix Original" or apparently also "Netflix Film/Series" now. 'The Cloverfield Paradox' seems to be such a case, unless you can point to a country that showed it before Netflix or proof that Netflix doesn't have air rights in all the region that Netflix is available in. - If you don't do that, then all content that was bought at festivals could technically never be a Netflix Original, because countries like Crimea, North Korea, or Syria have no business at all with Netflix (because of government restrictions). China is debatable, because you're right, Netflix is in that market, but only because they found a third party that (sometimes) buys content from them. So technically the Netflix brand is not afaik. I will not change it back again for now, but I'm with TheMovieGuy on this one.-Abyss Taucher (talk) 11:02, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Abyss Taucher i think you’ll find satification in the fact that i proved what you and I both believe to be true: that Cloverfield Paradox IS in fact a Netflix Original. TheMovieGuy (talk) 17:05, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Conflicting information regarding 'Polar' release
[edit]There're sources that claim that 'Polar' is not a full original, because Netflix will not release it in Canada and Germany (I don't count China here, see above why). Example: https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/02/23/mads-mikkelsen-netflix-dark-horse-polar/
The source we use (Deadline) doesn't claim that, but if you ask me then they simnply forgot to include it. I vote for listing it under 'Exclusive international film distribution'. Ping for Armos (the editor). -Abyss Taucher (talk) 12:45, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
I dont know... I dont really dont know... TheMovieGuy (talk) 18:25, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Duplass Films
[edit]How are films produced by the Duplasses, such as Outside In, Duck Butter, Take Me, not listed on here, when they bear the Netflix logo at the beginning film and on marketing materials? Vmars22 (talk) 20:16, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
- IIRC these films were part of the first 4 movies deals with them, just like 'Blue Jay' and that wasn't a Netflix original, it was a Netflix Presents. We talked about that way back when and you even took part. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_original_programs_distributed_by_Netflix/Archive_1#Netflix_Presents_vs._Netflix_Original
- From all I can tell these films really arn't Netflix Originals. -Abyss Taucher (talk) 23:56, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
About The Titan
[edit](The link that I sent in comments may be geoblocked, so there is another one) According to Justwatch https://www.justwatch.com/fr/film/titan The Titan is also available on iTunes, GooglePlay, the Playstation Store and other local platforms. Armos (talk) 17:20, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
What about Hush?
[edit]Shouldn't Hush be listed under Exclusive international film distribution? Netflix is the only platform that movie was ever released in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dignam (talk • contribs) 02:47, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
I think Hush should be listed under Netflix Originals personally.
TheMovieGuy (talk) 20:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
What about films Netflix has actually produced?
[edit]Is there any list which separates out the films Netflix hasn't simply bought the rights to distribute, but actually funded or co-funded? 92.20.142.102 (talk) 20:56, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Rotten Tomatoes Scores
[edit]@Picsovina: I've added this column to one table. More should be added. This is a good contribution and should not be removed. Perhaps even add other rating sites. I will continue to add this contribution until this entire page is locked by mods then we can sort that out. 2600:1700:F1B2:87E0:38F2:4EE8:F588:AFBD (talk) 01:14, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- Why are you adding this column ? You are adding a lot of data to a page that is already big… and all that data can alreayd be accessed from the page of the movies. "this is a good contribution" is not an argument. Armos (talk) 19:42, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Armos: It is a good contribution. The page is meant to list relevant information, how the original Netflix films were received is relevant information. "Too much data" is not an argument. 2600:1700:F1B2:87E0:351E:CC25:CFCA:AF60 (talk)
- I personally dont mind this addition, but I do think it is a bit redundant. The purpose of the page is to list the films distributed by Netflix, not to rank them. Not to mention that every similar page the other studios have (like 20th Century Fox for example) does not have critical ratings or scores. To be honest, I would even delete the runtime column, because even that info is redundant to the purpose of the page. Picsovina (talk) 11:11, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Picsovina: There is no "ranking" even with this addition. All the columns can be sorted but this does not rank anything. What's the purpose of any of the other columns? Nobody needs to know the length of a film. The critic scores are more pertinent than the film length. When someone views this page they're seeing what is on Netflix or what films Netflix has done. Having a quick glance at how Netflix originals are received is relevant information. I am not saying remove the film length. I am saying you can't argue having one and not the other, they fill the same purpose. Similar pages should not be used for comparison. There is no telling the quality or state of similar pages. We are discussing THIS page, not others. 12.219.101.178 (talk)
- Well, I am leaning towards not having it. So one for "Nay". Picsovina (talk) 19:06, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Picsovina: this is a stupid thing to be debating. Why does it even matter? Who cares if the column is added? how many people view this page? outside the contributors 2 people a day? to be so restrictive about additions. ridiculous. just add the dumb column. the world will still spin. is every single content addition going to be debated in this talk page? why? why why why. nobody cares 2600:1700:F1B2:87E0:7C19:7D8F:12E:9E96 (talk)
Putting titles with no precise release dates in the main list makes little sense (like Rusted AutoParts did this week end)
[edit]For me this kind of change (against the previous consensus) should have been discussed before. We should put in the main list only films whose release date has been announced, and put the other films in the upcoming list (with the reference to the release year).
Armos (talk) 13:48, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
- I agree. I removed it for the reasons mentioned, but it was undone by Rusted AutoParts -Thornstrom (talk) 16:18, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Netflix confirmed 2020 titles
[edit]I don’t understand why there’s pushback against including specific titles in a specifically identified 2020 release year for comedy and drama titles that Netflix themselves have confirmed. If they are specifically confirmed, why are they being pushed off the 2020 section? Rusted AutoParts 03:25, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
Merge Drama and Comedy separation
[edit]I am thinking we should merge Drama and Comedy section to just Feature Films, because there are grey areas (comedy-dramas, dramedies) and every movie has a genre specified in the table anyway. Thoughts? 192.193.116.142 (talk) 16:43, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- I support this, because of the grey area issue - Thornstrom (talk) 16:50, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
- I support too, makes sense, let me do this. Picsovina (talk) 21:03, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
To unify exclusive distribution film tables
[edit]Id rather we unified the exclusive distribution films and have the language in a column than in the title, just like it is with the original films. Now it looks a bit scattered this way, and with one table one could easily sort the films by langauge. 199.67.203.142 (talk) 15:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- I support this. It would be better organized that way. Picsovina (talk) 18:04, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- I could not resist and did it. Feel free to revert it if you disagree. Picsovina (talk) 19:26, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Split?
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
This page is getting long. Thoughts on splitting? ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:35, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Thornstrom, Picsovina, and Prince Silversaddle: Pinging a few recent editors for feedback. What about separate lists for 2010s and 2020s? Or what about creating a separate page for upcoming titles? ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:09, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
I prefer split on upcoming rather than year Thornstrom (talk) 13:13, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- I would prefer to split ongoing/upcoming on one page and ended/canceled on another. Even though in streaming there is no real programming, because everything stays available all the time, those shows which still get renewed and air new episodes are more relevant at a time than those which already ended. So I would split it like the NBC programming page is split:
- Thornstrom, I'd support a separate page for upcoming releases. Does List of upcoming original films distributed by Netflix be an appropriate title? ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:25, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, I just realized this is the film page. :D Never mind my comment then, it applies to the TV show page. I think upcoming should stay though, I like Thornstrom's idea better. Picsovina (talk) 13:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Picsovina, I'm confused. Thornstrom said "I prefer split on upcoming". Can you clarify your preference? ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Another Believer, legit, I meant your idea, splitting by decades. Like Paramount page: Template:Paramount Pictures films ---Picsovina (talk) 14:14, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Picsovina, I'm confused. Thornstrom said "I prefer split on upcoming". Can you clarify your preference? ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, List of upcoming original films distributed by Netflix would be an appropriate title I believe -Thornstrom (talk) 19:58, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, I just realized this is the film page. :D Never mind my comment then, it applies to the TV show page. I think upcoming should stay though, I like Thornstrom's idea better. Picsovina (talk) 13:44, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not really against it, go for it if you wish, just pointing out that it will make editing more complicated (since you will constantly have to move programs from one site to the other, while now you have everything in the same place). I prefer split by decade, that way editing might be difficult only for a limited time, only for a couple of months between the decades. Picsovina (talk) 07:28, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Picsovina, I don't want to create more work, and I'm open to whatever editors think is best (especially those who work to maintain these lists). I just think the current page is way too long, so I'm hoping we can come up with a good solution. ---Another Believer (Talk) 12:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Not really against it, go for it if you wish, just pointing out that it will make editing more complicated (since you will constantly have to move programs from one site to the other, while now you have everything in the same place). I prefer split by decade, that way editing might be difficult only for a limited time, only for a couple of months between the decades. Picsovina (talk) 07:28, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Well...? What do we think?
[edit]Hoping we can come to a consensus here (I'm not sure a preference for splitting by decade or 'upcoming' has emerged above). This page is too long and needs a split in some form... ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:42, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Rooting for split by decade. :) Picsovina (talk) 15:38, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Unfortunely, I'm rooting for split by current/upcoming... - Thornstrom (talk) 06:59, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thornstrom, Something to keep in mind: eventually, this list will get too long even with the upcoming films moved elsewhere... ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Unfortunely, I'm rooting for split by current/upcoming... - Thornstrom (talk) 06:59, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Split by decade
[edit]Can we make a split to this page too? It is already too long. I was thinking a split by decade like all major studios pages are now (Disney, Universal, Paramount etc.). Then we could have a navbox at the bottom to navigate easily between the decades. I already proposed this earlier if you scroll up, but there was no consensus, but I think the longer the page gets the more justified it will be to make this split. Anyway, waiting for your thoughts. Picsovina (talk) 18:04, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- Support splitting by decade. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:07, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, I dont see any objections. Doing it. Picsovina (talk) 11:14, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Picsovina, Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:11, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, I dont see any objections. Doing it. Picsovina (talk) 11:14, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
This page needs to conform to accessibility guidelines, like the other six million here
[edit]See MOS:TABLECAPTION (all tables need captions) and note that at MOS:HEAD (all headers should be unique). Since the changes I made aren't controversial, please revert back to them. Thanks. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:48, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- I support these edits. I'll need to do this where I see credits-related tables. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 18:04, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Split off exclusive international distribution
[edit]Now there is a separate page for Netflix international distribution - List of Netflix exclusive international distribution programming.
Should we move the exclusive distribution films there? I would like that, since this page is for original films and exclusive distribution fits there perfectly and we could shorten the film page. Picsovina (talk) 10:58, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Return to Sudden Death
[edit]According to the Unversal Pictures Home Entertainment website, the film will be released in DVD and in digital. The DVD is even listed on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Welcome-Sudden-Death-Michael-White/dp/B08DSS7WZW Is it still a Netflix Original ? Armos (talk) 09:49, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- I don't know. The source used in this article here says so, but there isn't a Netflix page for it yet, which is quite unusual because a lot of upcoming titles already have Netflix pages years before they're released. There also hasn't been any promotional material released and there are just under 3 weeks left until it comes out. This is a co-production with Universal 1440 Entertainment and a co-distribution with Universal Pictures Home Entertainment, so it seems likely to me that there will be a different release plan to other Netflix original films. I would say we wait until the 29th or until something comes from Netflix in the next couple of weeks for this. Apd9696 (talk) 19:38, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Armos:@Apd9696:So did this film appear to anyone? I did not see this topic here, so I moved the movie to exclusive distribution page earlier, because it did not appear in my region. But if nobody sees this, then we should remove it completely. Picsovina (talk) 11:33, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- Nothing here in the UK. I'm thinking it was acquired by Netflix for second-run release and it will stream at a later date but not as a Netflix original. The date could have moved, in which case we should leave it. But I think we can remove it and add it back later. Apd9696 (talk) 11:39, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
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