Talk:Mark Crispin Miller
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Appeared on a Podcast?
[edit]I removed the passage below from the section on anti-vaccine conspiracies because it doesn’t seem to be relevant. Miller appeared on the show and was praised by Taibbi, but it’s unclear how this has anything to do with anti-vaccine conspiracies. In the interview he makes his case for why he thinks he’s been unfairly treated by NYU, but he doesn’t advocate for any such conspiracy in the interview. Taibbi’s compliments there IN NO WAY implied an endorsement of anti-vaccine conspiracy theories.
“He has appeared on the Useful Idiots podcast and was praised by its host, Matt Taibbi.”[1][2]
References
- ^ Taibbi, Matt; Halper, Katie (December 31, 2020). "Stimulus Checks, Larry Summers, Plus Mark Crispin Miller on Academic Freedom". Rolling Stone.
- ^ Taibbi, Matt. "Meet the censored: Mark Crispin Miller". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
- So is your point that it's in the wrong section? That's probably correct. BobFromBrockley (talk) 11:24, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
- It was definitely in the wrong section, but I’m not sure why it’s in the article at all. Miller has done several interviews—esp. in the wake of the NYU scandal. Why is this one important enough to include in an encyclopedia article about him? We don’t list all his speeches and online videos. Does the Taibbi connection tell us anything useful about him? (Maybe it does; I’m really asking). Btw, I added Miller to the list of UI guests on the Matt Taibbi page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:803:8000:2FD0:FC6D:35CC:69DB:2DE6 (talk) 15:59, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- I retract my comment above. After reading the passage in its new context I see how it’s relevant. Matt Taibbi is a known for being critical of the [insert favorite adjective here] media, hence the connection to Miller’s work in media studies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:803:8000:2FD0:FC6D:35CC:69DB:2DE6 (talk) 16:13, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
- It was definitely in the wrong section, but I’m not sure why it’s in the article at all. Miller has done several interviews—esp. in the wake of the NYU scandal. Why is this one important enough to include in an encyclopedia article about him? We don’t list all his speeches and online videos. Does the Taibbi connection tell us anything useful about him? (Maybe it does; I’m really asking). Btw, I added Miller to the list of UI guests on the Matt Taibbi page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:803:8000:2FD0:FC6D:35CC:69DB:2DE6 (talk) 15:59, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
Criticism
[edit]Any criticism section should be written with NPOV, and preferably (IMO) with references to published criticism, rather than reader opinions. --mtz206 19:11, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
- I personally would like to see a good criticism section. I could criticize his new 2004 elections book (as I work in that field). -- Joebeone (Talk) 16:12, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- November 04, 2005., Mark Crispin Miller: “Kerry Told Me He Now Thinks the Election Was Stolen”
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- Austerlitz -- 88.75.87.186 (talk) 08:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
This book
[edit]Mad Scientists: Paranoid Delusion and the Craft of Propaganda, (W. Norton) I would like to read it, but I couldn't find out whether it really can be bought.
- Austerlitz -- 88.72.30.86 (talk) 06:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The book is mentioned here and here [6].
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Sandy Hook allegations seem to be false
[edit]Miller has been accused of denying the Sandy Hook massacre. But he has stated explicitly (on the Red Square Podcast) that he has never expressed this opinion and claims that he does not even discuss Sandy Hook on his website at all. The article does not cite his writing in this subsection. I am unable to read the paywalled article that it does cite, but if it contains the cited quote it may be citing rumors and hearsay. There seems to be no evidence that he endorsed the James Fetzer book, and it is likely that this is a fabrication. 2600:4041:52D4:6600:4D3F:DBC1:F7FE:4F0A (talk) 00:24, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Podcasts are not reliable sources. We cite a reliable source where he's quoted as saying that he suspects Sandy Hook was staged:
- "I suspect it was staged. It’s some kind of an exercise. That’s my suspicion. I have no reason to believe that Noah and the other children really were there, or were killed." ComeAndHear (talk) 01:10, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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