Talk:Meuse

Etymology?

Mosasaur and Moselle have names that come from this river's name but what origin does this river's name has?Undead Herle King (talk) 00:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

To linguists it's not clear either, but some of them have a slight presumtion, that it's root is the Celtic word "mus", meaning as much as "being moist". In that case it might have somthing to do with the fact, that this is a rainriver. VKing (talk) 04:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

But even more likely it simply was the (or a) word for "the water", or who knows "the river". (Note the probable alliance with nowadays "moist"). VKing (talk) 13:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

. Only modern Dutch preserves this Germanic form, however.

Well, the German word which is spelled exactly the same of course has a total different Etymology ? :-) 88.159.79.148 (talk) 19:13, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

The current etymology section claims the Dutch name has a completely different etymology from the French name. On its face this assertion seems unlikely given the great superficial similarity, but I'm willing to believe it if there are sources. However, this isn't the idea one would get from reading wikt:Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/Masō, which seems to imply it does derive from the Celtic name, just independently. Granted, I have not read the original source by Greule. At least one source I have found explicitly says the Dutch name derives from the same Celtic source as the French name: [1]. 98.170.164.88 (talk) 05:31, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Additional facts

Added to this article might be the following facts:

1) There are six hydroelectric plants in this river, as a result of which there are as good as no migrating kinds of fishes, like salmon and eel, in it any more.

2) In the Dutch part, from near the frontier, up to about Venlo, since the 70s vast extractions of gravel from the river and it's banks have destroyed the typical landscape of grean fruityards as good as completely. Instead there are now mainly vast lakes, on which there is some waterrecreation, although in the Belgian part upstream the drain is discharged uncleared in the river. VKing (talk) 23:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

More additional facts

In May 1940, the Germans crossed over the Meuse, which everyone thought to be impossible. Nothing about WWII is mentioned in the article except events in 1944/1945. I think it would be beneficial to the article to include this. Starsmark (talk) 03:45, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

English pronunciation?

Is that English pronunciation actually correct? I thought it would have been more like [mɜːz], which is a pretty close approximation of the French using English sounds. Kannan91 (talk) 15:08, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree, I'm no expert on the phonetics but English pronunciation is close to the French, something like "merze" and not "muse". --Bermicourt (talk) 17:31, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Naming

Is there any reason why this article should not be titled Meuse River? IMHO (talk) 20:34, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Hm, perhaps because the name of the river is Meuse (or Maas in the Netherlands), not Meuse River or River Meuse (but we already have redirects to catch these terms as well). The article name sounds perfectly okay to me, and also is in accordance with WP:NAME.

--Matthiaspaul (talk) 21:10, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 25 July 2015

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The result of the move request was: move. However, incoming links must be fixed before this move is actioned. Ping me or drop a note on my talk page when this has been done and I'll move the articles. Jenks24 (talk) 12:55, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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• Meuse (river) → Meuse
• Meuse → Meuse (department)

– The primary topic is clearly the river. The Meuse is one of Europe's major waterways, flowing through 3 countries before entering the North Sea. It is also notable for its role in the First World War, e.g. the Meuse-Argonne Offensive. By contrast, the French department is far less well known and, in any case named after the river. This move would be in line with other departments named after the Moselle, Ardennes and Vosges and follows the convention for disambiguating French departments. Bermicourt (talk) 16:01, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

• Support. Srnec (talk) 21:49, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
• Support per nom. —  AjaxSmack  21:23, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
• Support. France has 101 departments. An individual department not all that notable in the non-Francophone world. Gulangyu (talk) 06:26, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
• Support, clear primary topic. --Cavarrone 09:44, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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I've moved Meuse to Meuse (department) in order to start sorting the links. However, there are a large number of, mainly communes, that use the link Meuse in the infobox and lede in a formulaic way and all of them need to be changed. Is there a simple bot that can do this? Otherwise it'll take days. Bermicourt (talk) 20:08, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

@Bermicourt: I don't think this is suitable as a bot task, as in many cases the context shows that the link to Meuse meant to refer to the river. But I'm working through them with AWB. I've done about half the alphabet but need a break! -- John of Reading (talk) 16:37, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

@John of Reading:. Tks. I was only thinking of using a bot for the communes, but hey. One problem is that their infoboxes have an embedded link and the infobox is locked to us mere editors. I've left a request on the talk page for someone to amend it. Thanks for your work so far. I'll get stuck in again as well. Cheers. Bermicourt (talk) 16:47, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

@Bermicourt: That was an intense editing session - over 650 edits, hopefully without editing any links that should be pointing to the article about the river. I made the edit at Template:Infobox French commune too. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:30, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Amazing! Not sure Wikipedia can cope with a "mass" thank you! Bermicourt (talk) 20:17, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Anent the British firstname “Maaslewis” / “Meighslewis”

Should I list the books and other suchlike wherefrom the aforesaid “Maaslewis”and “Meighslewis” (and lesserly “Mewsslewiss” and “Mawslewis”) British firstnames are byworded and more? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C7:9C97:5D01:3D6F:1D5C:17EA:E2E6 (talk) 12:19, 1 February 2022 (UTC)