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Opening comments[edit]

i want to know how to explain to people about miming —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.111.20.85 (talkcontribs) 14:42, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

How is this different from pantomime? Perhaps this should be merged with the pantomime article? --Bookgrrl 01:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Mime is a completely different thing to pantomime. Mime is explained in the article, while a pantomime is a performer that performs stories through song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wusha (talkcontribs) 09:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

While Mime & Pantomime have the same root, I do not see any problem in keeping them separate. I am trying to judge it from the point of view of what most people might expect when they use WP. See my comments on Talk:Pantomime (theatre) about how I would like to make these pages more logical. I understand the idea that some people don't want to use 'Pantomime' as 'Pantomime (theatre)' because it is too British orientated, but in my experience most Americans don't use or know the word Pantomime, whereas all English speakers seem to have a similar concept of mime. (Whether this agrees with the ideas of contributers here is a different matter!) Dyaimz 00:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Blackface?[edit]

Where does this business in the trivia section of mimes being sworn enemies of blackface minstrals come from? In my years of being a mime artist, I have never heard this from either my mentors or from my peers. In fact, it's not even a pop-culture myth as with the clown/mime rivalry-- in part because the blackface minstral tradition has been largely dead for generations. IanThal

Available image[edit]

Image:Mime in guanajuato.jpg. This image of a mime was erroneously placed on the disambiguation page Mime. If it is appropriate for this article, please add it. —Centrxtalk 03:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

There has been some vandalism here. The entire section on Modern Mime is now missing.

I will search for it, if not, does anyone have a copy archived? —Preceding unsigned comment added by IanThal (talkcontribs) 01:49, 1 October 2006 in the history? Wolfmankurd 15:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

On 10/1/2006 I was still relatively new to Wikipedia and had only figured out how to go into the history of articles shortly after I had posted the question.IanThal 18:48, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Ennio Marchetto?[edit]

The addition of a paragraph about Ennio Marchetto looks like an excerpt from a press release. The performer may be significant enough to be included in a separate wikipedia article, however, in a general article about mime, the scope should be limited to the major figures who have significantly inluenced the entire field such as Étienne Decroux, Jacques Lecoq, Marcel Marceau, Henryk Tomaszewski (mime), Charles Chaplin et cetera.IanThal 00:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Mime in Popular Culture?[edit]

Do we really need a list of every time a mime character or character who dressed in a stereotypical mime fashion appears in the popular media? Do we really need this section or can we at least pare it down to more than a list of trivial facts?IanThal 03:59, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I've been asking myself the same questions... and I say no we don't need them.Balloonman 15:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I removed most of them. What is left probably should be better organized rather than just aligned as a bullet list.IanThal 18:52, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

It's astonishing that nobody has mentioned the stereotype in popular culture, at least in the US and UK, of mimes being annoying and always doing the “invisible box” routine. 68.83.72.162 (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Opening statement[edit]

The opening statement seems a bit circular to me: it says a mime artists is basically a performer who uses mime in his art. It does not adequately explain what mime actually is. If one didn't know what mime was already, he would be none the wiser. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 00:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Do you care to rewrite it then?IanThal 11:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

Mime is currently a disambiguation, leading to this article and to MIME. I propose that the phrase Mime artist should be secondary to the artform, mime. The disambiguation should be moved to Mime (disambiguation), whereas Mime artist should be moved to Mime. Another good reason to do this: it appears that the great majority of pages linking to the Mime disambiguation are in reference to the artform anyway. --woggly 04:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Oppose. This article is primarily about mime artists, renaming it would be a bit like renaming actor to acting. There should be a separate article for the artform of mime, but there's no reason to lose Mime artist for that to happen. It could be done on the current Mime page since there's only one other use which could be linked to from the new article. Crazysuit 18:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Fair enough. --woggly 08:12, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

I've started a new article at Mime using material from this article, there is no longer a need to move this article (though further cleanup of both articles may be in order). --woggly 08:39, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

  • This seems to have disappeared? If this does not reappear I'd support a slight rewrite of this article and its rename to 'Mime'Happypoems (talk) 16:02, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
  • I support Woggly's proposal to rename this article as well as do further clean up. I began a cleanup last year when the article was a complete mess, but there is a lot more to do, and I had hoped at the time to recruit more people to help in that process.IanThal 00:55, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned link - transfer from (British) Panto page[edit]

The following link was in the "British" style pantomime page but it seems to belong more naturally here. If anyone wants to use it, go ahead. Rob Burbidge (talk) 12:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

opening paragraph[edit]

Can we fix the opening paragraph that defines what mining is? It is currently using the word 'mime' to define what miming is. It doesn't tell me anything. 118.209.176.27 (talk) 10:35, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Lost contents[edit]

Way back in May 2007, two unexplained edits in a row [1] [2] brought this article's length down from 26 kilobytes to 9 kilobytes. It seems like lots of useful information was lost at that point and never restored. Anybody feel like taking a closer look and maybe restoring or integrating the lost contents? AtticusX (talk) 20:51, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Tom Bergeron[edit]

He used to be a mime, as revealed on I've Got A Secret, but he wasn't famous *for* being a mime. Should he be included in the list of mimes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.181.197 (talk) 02:21, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Interwiki links (Wikidata help)[edit]

Interwiki links are/were a bit disarranged, probably because of the term pantomime (BE) which is, in most other languages, the general term for mime (AE). Here's a list of the different Wikidata items about the main (panto)mime topics.

Some Wikipedias mix informations about mime (the art) and mime (the individual artist) in one article, so the links were sorted according to their title and main topic. Some Wikipedias have two articles (one about the art and one about the artists).

  • d:Q39818: Mime – about the classic theatre genre/performance art, about its subgenres, history etc. (mime is currently only a redirect, several en.wikipedia articles were merged into mime artist in the past, see below)

Holger1959 (talk) 15:22, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Pantomime = British mime?[edit]

Pls weigh in here: Talk:Pantomime#Pantomime = British mime?. Thanks. Fgnievinski (talk) 03:03, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

You are trying to use hatnotes to explain a distinction that is meant for the body of the article. Hatnotes are only used for clerical purposes. Hatnotes are for articles that have the same title. A reader will not be brought to this article if they type in pantomime. Please read WP:RELATED for further explanation. MarnetteD|Talk 04:32, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
I forgot to mention that panto (with the appropriate link) is mentioned in the second paragraph of the lede. It points out the distinction between the two. Having the mention that close to the top of the article further obviates the need for an improper hatnote. MarnetteD|Talk 04:48, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Let's keep the discussion centralized elsewhere, shall we: Talk:Pantomime#Pantomime = British mime?. Thanks. Fgnievinski (talk) 04:15, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

No. In this discussion, I am referring specifically to the hatnote that you were trying to add to this article. The discussion there has almost nothing to do with this. MarnetteD|Talk 04:23, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
I have fixed this error by removing that bad link. This topic has little or nothing to do with pantomime as developed in Britain, which is a farcical form of musical theatre; the two artforms evolved very separately over the past 300 to 400 years. I just read this article, and it's awful. The Greek section is barely relevant, as is the whole section on non-western traditions. And, on the other hand, it has only a perfunctory discussion of mime as developed in Europe by artists like Jean-Gaspard Deburau and performed worldwide today. I see that in May 2007, two edits in a row [3] [4] deleted most of the discussion of mime from the article. Unfortunately, the content that was deleted was unreferenced. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:34, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Just a note to agree that the section on Greek and Latin mime really needs work and probably should be split out. Ancient mime was spoken. - Eponymous-Archon (talk) 15:49, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Germanic Paganism[edit]

Was looking for the Germanic Pagan Mime....2601:806:4301:C100:3D03:652C:8417:1ECB (talk) 21:29, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

After some searching it looks like the closest article to what you are looking for is Regin. The only mention there though is a small item about the character in Wagner's Ring Cycle so WikiP may not have any info that is useful to you. MarnetteD|Talk 22:25, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. That was it. Is there a way to do a redirect from a disambiguation page?2601:806:4301:C100:3D03:652C:8417:1ECB (talk) 22:15, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Okay I have added a link to the article at the mention of the character at Mime (disambiguation). This is clearer than creating a redirect. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. MarnetteD|Talk 22:56, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you kindly. I am afraid to edit anything. It looks good!2601:806:4301:C100:3D03:652C:8417:1ECB (talk) 23:13, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
You are welcome. MarnetteD|Talk 00:02, 13 August 2017 (UTC)