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Ixtli 17:57, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sushen found in Japanese documents, or Chinese?

"The name Sushen, which is rendered 肅愼 but pronounced Mishihase or Ashihase in Japanese, can also be found in Japanese documents." -- I am assuming this is supposed to say that it was found in Chinese documents, where it was pronounced Sushen, whereas the Japanese readings of the same compound were Mishihase and Ashihase. But I'm not sure enough to actually change this. Anyone else think this should say "Chinese"? 24.159.255.29 01:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Japanese read the ethnonym 肅愼 as Shukushin (しゅくしん) when it is used in reference to the people that lived to the north of ancient China and who were famous for their payment of arrows as tribute to the Chinese emperor, but the same characters are read as Mishihase/Mishiwase (みしはせ) or Ashihase/Ashiwase (あしはせ) when used in reference to the tribe that invaded the northeastern parts of Japan in the 7th century CE. Whether "Mishihase"/"Mishiwase" or "Ashihase"/"Ashiwase" is the correct reading is a matter of dispute among Japanese scholars. Ebizur 04:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are believed to have spoken a Tungusic language.

This should be removed I believe. After reading the stub on the Nivkh People it seems the Nivkh suffered from invading or migrating Tunghu People, thus if the Mishihase/Mishiwase was of the Okhotsk Culture they would have spoken a version of the Nivkh lingustical isolate not a Tungusic language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.226.138.39 (talk) 21:29, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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