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On the merge[edit]

Ive closed this as requested. Although wiki advice is that its unecessary where there is clear consensus and that is certainly the case here. Be bolder? Victuallers (talk) 10:17, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The attack on the HDP office in Izmir is probably notable because of the Murder. HDP offices get attacked quite often and such events usually do not have an article. But this is just me arguing. Other voices are welcome as well, and I might join an other editors opinion as well.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 17:27, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Paradise Chronicle:! Actually, Turkish media mostly covered about ties of the perpetrator with Grey Wolves and SADAT. There are many reasons about this attack having huge portion in Turkish media unlike other attacks, one obviously being murder of Deniz Poyraz, however Turkish media is currently focusing upon the role of SADAT (which has been an important topic of discussions since the beginning of allegations by Sedat Peker) and Turkish government/deep state (especially Süleyman Soylu and Mehmet Ağar as claimed by Peker). The attack also happened right after an attack on Meral Akşener in Rize, about which Erdogan said that the opposition will see such attacks more from now on. (an article of Indy covering reactions against these words of Erdogan) So media is currently discussing upon role of the government on this attack, creating a chain of allegations, while comparing it with similar more large-scaled Islamist and ultranationalist-funded attacks, happened in recent history of Turkey.

That's my opinion, since media did not only cover death of her but also ties to SADAT, Grey Wolves, Mehmet Ağar and the deep state/Turkish government. — Pamphylian ● 💬 18:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As to me the murder warrants its own article, there are several articles on Murders already on Wikipedia. There will follow an investigation and a trial and there will be enough news to be added to the article. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:34, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge Although I doubt if there is much to merge. But Murder of Deniz Poyraz is clearly the better sourced and more neutral of the two. The Banner talk 18:27, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge It's really the same topic/event. Tradedia^talk 14:17, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge It should be merged under the article "Murder of Deniz Poyraz" since it's better-written and better-sourced as The Banner said. — Pamphylian ● 💬 17:33, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Paradise Chronicle: This discussion remains undecided since 4 months, should it come to a conclusion? — 07 ● 💬 12:51, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Let's contact an uninvolved discussion closer. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 13:25, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

in progress Victuallers (talk) 10:08, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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