Talk:Ninian Stephen

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Australian Citizen ?[edit]

Was the Rt Hon. Sir Ninian Stephen a naturalised Australian Citizen ? Details appreciated. 203.129.54.113 04:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 00:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC) He migrated to Australia as a child? He must have been at least 15 if the school years are correct. Hardly a "child". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.111.52 (talk) 05:33, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Hayes connection[edit]

JackofOz (talk): you reverted my removal of "One of his daughters, Mary, was married to Peter Hayes QC.", suggesting that I did so to protect (Stephen's?) reputation. No: I removed it because I think it is a distracting irrelevance. Can you agree? Wikiain (talk) 18:12, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, no, I don't agree, which is why I reverted it. I may have worded my edit summary a little bluntly, for which I apologise, but it was certainly not meant to reflect on your personal motivations, Wikiain.
But the fact remains that if one of his daughters was married to a well-known public figure whose name has NOT been subject to the sorts of disgrace Peter Hayes earned, I think we'd be having no difficulty in linking their names in the article. Ninian Stephen is a highly respected jurist, and Peter Hayes was a member of the legal profession. It's not surprising that one of the daughters married a lawyer, and that sort of connection is Wikipedia's stock in trade.
We make the link in the reverse direction at Peter Hayes (lawyer):
  • He was survived by his former wife Mary Stephen (daughter of Sir Ninian Stephen), a son and two daughters.
So why not in this direction? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 20:35, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
No worries about my intentions, Jack. The item in the Hayes article tells us something about Hayes - that he had been married to a very respectable lady, thus one respect in which he fell from grace. But the item in the Stephen article tells us nothing about Stephen. I wouldn't include the fact that one of his daughters married a lawyer - hardly surprising, being brought up with lawyers all around and anyway there are a lot of them about. And it seems that she and Hayes were no longer married at the time of his death. Then what makes Hayes special in relation to Stephen? I still think that this item is a distracting irrelevance. Wikiain (talk) 23:59, 1 February 2015 (UTC)