Talk:Nuns on the Bus
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Nuns on the Bus and LCWR
[edit]I'd like to remind editors that this article is for information specifically about Nuns on the Bus. There's been some confusion in this article between the Nuns on the Bus and the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR). In the last few days I removed a quote about the LCWR that had been used such that it looked like someone was talking about Nuns on the Bus when they were in fact talking about the LWCR. The LCWR does not run Nuns on the Bus. Please be careful to put information in the correct article. GalaxyHound (talk) 16:23, 27 September 2013 (UTC) Agreed, we need to be clear when we're talking about LCWR or Nuns on the bus. However, the "Nuns on the Bus" program was created in response to the Vatican's attack on American nuns, as Laurie Goldstein of the New York Times points out, so it is absolutely to be expected that the article about Nuns on the Bus will also include references to LCWR. VanEman (talk) 20:55, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
Ohio Tour - Requests for Citations
[edit]In the last few days I've made two requests for citations in this article, both in the section headed "Ohio Tour".
Firstly, the sentence "Their endorsement of Barack Obama's platform has been deemed not ordered with the tenets of the Catholic Church." needs a citation. If it doesn't have one, then it's an opinion and can be removed. I've also requested clarification for this sentence. I think it would be helpful to explicitly state what part of the platform is "not ordered".
Secondly, the sentence "The Vatican has weighed in on the issue with a negative outlook, aiming to maintain the integrity of the Church's teachings." needs a citation. This was originally part of a paragraph that did have a quote with a citation that explained this, but I removed the quote as it did not actually refer to Nuns on the Bus. A new citation is needed.
If no suitable citations can be found, I am proposing in both cases that the sentences be removed. GalaxyHound (talk) 16:55, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
- A week has passed since I posted the above. No-one has provided a citation in either case, or objected to my proposal, so I have now deleted the sentences mentioned. In the case of the first sentence, I have also deleted some other sentences that no longer made sense once the removal had occurred. GalaxyHound (talk) 16:42, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
2014 Tour
[edit]Just added well-documented info on the Nuns on the Bus 2014 tour, which was reversed as "POV" personal analysis. Wrong. The information came from reliable sources and is well documented. Anyone can disagree about whether "dark money" or big campaign contributors are good or bad, but unless you can say the nuns on the bus tour is not motivated by countering big money, then it's best to accept the word of the organizer, which is well documented.VanEman (talk) 04:52, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- @VanEman: the article is missing basic information, for example, how many nuns are participating, are they all from one order, what else do they do. The article also needs some change, for example,
their political activism questioned as being authentically Catholic
needs references and examples.In September, the Nuns rode the Staten Island Ferry at the end of a tour of Upstate New York
, could be removed without changing the meaning. —BoBoMisiu (talk) 00:06, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
2013 Tour
[edit]@VanEman: I wrapped a {{clarify span}} around "urging them to call on Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform"
to ask for clarification: "Were they supporting the 'Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013' introduced in April 2013?"
the cited July 2013 source was published within a few months of the introduction of that bill. The {{clarify span}} was removed by another editor. The cited source states:
- "House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said the nuns' principles mirror the priorities of House Democrats, who largely support an immigration bill that passed the Senate. Both, she said, respect the dignity and worth of every person in America, regardless of immigration status."
and:
- "the nuns welcomed the Senate immigration bill"
and:
- "their hardest job may be yet to come: convincing the Republican-led House to pass immigration reform"
so, it is reasonable to ask which immigration bill in that time frame they were whistle-stopping (even the title of the cited source is: "Nuns on the Bus push Congress to pass immigration reform") and provide a wikilink to the actual act. I think it was the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013. –BoBoMisiu (talk) 14:39, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
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