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links

Some places/links to consider adding to the attractions section:

Palette Town http://www.palette-town.com/

Venus Fort http://www.venusfort.co.jp/

Sun Walk http://www.sunwalk.net/

Daikanransha (Giant Ferris Wheel) http://www.daikanransha.com/

Leisure Land http://www.leisureland.jp/

-- Peter Kaminski 19:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Tokyo Big Sight

Seeing as Tokyo Big Sight doesn't have it's own article, why not add it here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.255.222.25 (talk) 20:12, 10 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Attractions

"Daikanransha, the world's largest ferris wheel after the London Eye"

Does anybody have a source for this? There are so many other ferris wheels that have been said to either be the largest or among the largest in the world, including a few in Japan alone: the Cosmo Clock 21 in Yokohama, the Sky Dream in Fukuoka and the one in Tempozan, Osaka. Does anyone have any information that could help verify these claims?

--Stephen Mok 19:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably, it's wrong. According to the webpage the height is 115m /110m (ring). The one in Kasai claims 117m/111m. Cosmo Clock 21 is 112.5m/100m same as the Tempozan. The Sky Dream is 120m/112m. The Star of Nanchang, China is 162m. I guess there is a permanent race going on and it also probably depends on how you measure the height.

Moved the little tidbit of information about Digimon to a section at the bottom called "Odaiba in Fiction." This kind of trivia does not belong in the opening lines of an article. --Black Orpheus 06:48, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Online research

I was trying to trace the source of an image of dubious copyright status from Tokyo Teleport Town, and found it on a thesis that compares urban projects around the world. Odaiba is included, and as the thesis seems to have been researched in 1995 (as the world expo was being scrapped), it provides an interesting perspective. here is the chapter of the thesis online. And, despite being a thesis, I think there are several interesting parts which would not violate WP:OR if they were included in this article. Neier 06:28, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merger with Tokyo Teleport Town

As far as I understand Odaiba is actually only the northern part of the artifical island belonging to Minato Ward (northern part of dumping place no. 13, see Japanese entry) but commonly the whole island seems to be called by that name. In that case the Tokyo Teleport Town entry should be merged with this article.

Forgot: I think 'Daiba' is the name of the orginial fortresses (and now also the name of a Yurikamome monorail station close to that place) whereas 'Odaiba' is the modern name of the larger area.

Daiba is Japanese for "fortress" or "battery". "Odaiba" just means (more or less) "the fortress", because it was the first and biggest in Edo times. In Japanese, the area is officially known as Rinkai, which simply means "seaside", but the term "Odaiba" is quite well understood. Jpatokal 10:43, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure about the name? If I read the Japanese entry correctly then "Odaiba" is a corruption of "Houdaiba" (砲台場), i.e. a fortress with cannons. 130.69.200.200 07:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agree to the merger. Been living in Tokyo later Yokohama for 20 years; for me Tokyo Teleport Town is almost a synonym for the Odaiba area. Just missing some hitech for teleportation ;-) Bernd in Japan 07:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree to the merger. The articles should be one and the same. -- Gloriamarie 16:45, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, what is the story behind the landfill claims? When I was living in Japan, all Japanese I knew also agreed that Odaiba used to be a landfill, but I don't see any information about that in the article. Anybody has information that could be contributed on that? 75.31.43.108 06:51, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Swimming not recommended"

Is this the opinion of one of the authors (I wouldn't swim their either) or the official advice from some authority? Either way, that point should be clarified.

Last I checked (it's been a while) there were signs on the beach prohibiting swimming. Jpatokal 04:33, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This page https://www.tptc.co.jp/park/01_02/point says swimming is prohibited "遊泳は禁止です。" just under the picture of people on the beach. Apparently wading is ok or at least what's what the picture implies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greggman (talk • contribs) 02:44, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recent exchange of fotos and removal of links

I just reverted the article to an older revision because I felt that before exchanging all fotos unjustified the matter should be discussed first here. 130.69.200.200 07:05, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fotos

changes to a better high quality picture. And, the article is arranged. An unnecessary link was removed . It is not newly made.--Sasanoha 13:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would disagree that the changes added better quality photos, and moreover, your latest mass revert deleted a large number of macrons and other valid edits made to the article. It is bordering on vandalism. Please be more careful in future. --DAJF 14:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What I suggested above was to discuss major changes to the visual appearance of an article before the changes are made and after an agreement among the users has been reached. Sasanoha, please be so nice and respect the work of others. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, after all.

Personally, I think that the pictures needed some clean up but bout choice and quality of fotos others may comment. 130.69.200.200 01:22, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(To be in the clear, I used to edit this article with the IP address 130.69.200.200). I hope that this pointless edit-war is now over and we can edit the pictures in the future as necessary without invoking another edit-war.

Maybe I should explain the motivation why I exchanged the fotos of this article. The previous top-most image Odaiba_night is, sorry, of rather low quality: visible artifacts, lights in the background where there shoudn't be (was this foto taken from behind a window?). Also, it is not clear where on this foto Odaiba should be. The front shows an unrelated district. The current foto (Fuji.TV.1.JPG) tries to capture the essentials of Odaiba although the fotograph itself might be not the best solution (but the best I could find in the Commons).

The 'Palette Town' foto (Palette_Town_en_Odaiba.jpg) doesn't add much information to the article. Palette Town is much more than just a colorful sign and a ferris wheel in the background (see text). The current night time foto, on the other hand, pictures the night-life atmosphere (in particular the famous house-boats in the front) and the attractiveness of the place quite well, I hope. If anybody feels that there are better fotos out there, please go ahead. But please keep in mind that the picture will be shown in the Attractions (that's the keyword here) section. Halx 01:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I was wrong. I will wait some time before I will revert the page again or somebody else makes comments. I am still open for any changes but we should reach consensus before. --Halx 23:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nature

"There is are large animals except wild cats and pets." Is this supposed to read "There are no...?" 72.191.151.243 (talk) 16:35, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

etymology

what is the significant of this name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.114.195.242 (talk) 16:29, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Yokosuka Relationship Source

The first paragraph currently says

> The original Odaiba opened in 1860 as a port and shipyard in the city today known as Yokosuka, site of the joint Japanese-US fleet HQ

No source is given. Yokosuka is 60km from Odaiba. What does it have to do with Odaiba? It seems like either someone should add the source that shows its relevance or remove the sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greggman (talk • contribs) 00:16, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right, don't know how I didn't see that before. It was added by a one time user who also edited Yokosuka to add Odaiba in there. I think it was trying to clumsily reference that there used to be an Odaiba in Yokosuka, but as you point out this isn't actually relevant. I've removed it. Canterbury Tail talk 02:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]