|WikiProject Open||(Rated C-class, Top-importance)|
|WikiProject Open Access||(Rated C-class, Top-importance)|
Request for sources
- Hello Bluerasberry. Someone could start with the article I cite on this page in Nature Chemistry, which is open access and quite general. I also wanted to explain the undo I just applied to your edit of the page. You removed links to projects with no supporting sites, is that right? The open source drug discovery for malaria project and the Synaptic Leap are both bona fide open science projects, as you can see from the links provided, so they should be linked on this page. Both have published research outputs. I can't personally vouch for the others you deleted.Latimer741 (talk) 04:05, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- I feel that all of the external links were to minor open science project which did not meet Wikipedia inclusion criteria so I removed them. Some guidelines about this are at Wikipedia:Embedded_list#Appropriate_use_of_lists and the recommendation is that internal lists could be modeled after the See also section of articles. There are a huge number of open science projects and not all of them can be listed, and I think that limiting this to links to Wikipedia articles would make this list the most WP:NPOV.
- Wikipedia's criteria for deciding what is "bona fide" are at WP:NOTABILITY. A project is considered to be notable when people other than the coordinators of the project begin publishing about it. See here for a summary. Here is some external coverage of the malaria project and likewise on the Synpatic Leap mainpage they list some of their press, but the articles I checked are either self-authored, about the coordinators and not the project, or about other projects. I would love to start Wikipedia articles about these projects but I do not think they are well established yet. Thoughts? Blue Rasberry (talk) 11:30, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- The nature article you cited is really good and gives a lot of insight which this article was lacking. Thanks - I will incorporate some of it into this article. It also has the Synaptic Leap coordinator talking about his own project. Since this is vetted by Nature and others, it is a citable source, but to make a Wikipedia article about Synaptic Leap there really ought to be a minimum of 1-2 good sources which are not authored by the person behind the project. Do you know of any? Blue Rasberry (talk) 11:42, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. Full disclosure: I'm the person running both projects at the moment, but there is external peer-reviewed coverage of The Synaptic Leap: http://www.plosntds.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pntd.0001827. No need for a separate page, but it's a real thing. It's also possible to view the active notebooks (http://malaria.ourexperiment.org/) and To Do list (https://github.com/OSDDMalaria/OSDDMalaria_To_Do_List/issues?state=open) for the malaria project, i.e. it's clear that it's also real and currently acive, not just talk about a project.Latimer741 (talk) 05:29, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Dr. Nielsen and other advocates for “open science” say science can accomplish much more, much faster, in an environment of friction-free collaboration over the Internet. And despite a host of obstacles, including the skepticism of many established scientists, their ideas are gaining traction. Open access archives and journals like arXiv and the Public Library of Science (PLoS) have sprung up in recent years. Galaxy Zoo, a citizen-science site, has classified millions of objects in space, discovering characteristics that have led to a raft of scientific papers. On the collaborative blog MathOverflow, mathematicians earn reputation points for contributing to solutions; in another math experiment dubbed the Polymath Project, mathematicians commenting on the Fields medalist Timothy Gowers’ blog in 2009 found a new proof for a particularly complicated theorem in just six weeks. ...
Citations in lede
WP:CITELEAD describes how citations in the lede are neither required nor restricted, but should be used when it increases the clarity of the article. User:Ingmar.lippert suggested that the lede contained "grand statements... which seem biased". I am happy to talk with anyone about making the article better, but I think the content which is there now is simple enough and backed by sources. I added the citations where requested by copying them from the body of the article. Thoughts? Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Develop this article Friday 19 September 2013
Hello! On Friday 19 September 2013 some attendees at OKCon, a conference of the Open Knowledge Foundation, will be participating in an effort to improve this Wikipedia article and others related to the concept of open science. Anyone who would like to contribute to this article as part of this drive to improvement should do so! Details of the event are at Wikipedia:Workshop/Open_Science_Workshop_(Geneva)/References#Main_References. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
- I've made a first global look to OS core references. So far, it appears to me that the articles structure could be enhanced in these directions :
- Create a definition section. There have been numerous discussions on the extent of OS. So far they do not really appear here.
- Expand the Historical Politics sections, that are otherwise rather fine.
- Perhaps replace the pro/cons with thematic sections on the effects of OS (on economics, epistemics and so on…).
- Alexander Doria (talk) 09:28, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that the pro/con section should go and that the content in it should be integrated in the article. Do you have any source which gives a definition of the term? I have not checked all of the sources but in the sources I have read I have not seen the term defined and contrasted with other terms. I wish all the sections could be expanded! I do what I can. Let me know if you want to collaborate on something. This is important to me and I paused a year ago because I could not find more sources - I am glad that new ones have been identified. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:23, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
A model for this page
I just read this article and liked it.
Examples and organizations
I just removed this sentence.
- Matthew Todd's papers on the successful open science project in the synthesis of a drug for a neglected tropical disease argue that the openness of the project accelerated the research.
In the past I have also removed minor projects from this page, and have preferentially included projects which meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria for article creation. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:48, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Is there a (non-wikipedia) list of these references? For this subject, having a link to "other projects" and moving the minor references would better serve the community. While this would not be the default Wikipedia goal, a movement based on not marginalizing the minor sources should have a small degree of leeway. Charles Merriam (talk) 22:10, 15 May 2016 (UTC)