Talk:Oswaldo Castro

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Segura

"The magus of math, the Segura of statistics": I don't understand. Which "Segura" is this? -- Hoary (talk) 02:20, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think I fixed this by putting brackets on the first mention of Segura. I had it further down in the text. Also, do you know how I can get back to my usual editing mode? I seem to be stuck on Visual Editor. Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 12:04, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Teahouse helped me solve the edit problem. I was in visual but now know how to get back to source editing.Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 23:54, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

His name

The titles of biographies of Hispanophones in English-language Wikipedia retain both surnames when retention of both is normal elsewhere (e.g. "Gabriel García Márquez"), but not otherwise (thus "Fidel Castro", not "Fidel Castro Ruz").

Oscar Waldoosty (or others): Oswaldo Castro Intriago's novel was marketed as by Oswaldo Castro. Would the eventual article be better titled "Oswaldo Castro"? (This would slightly increase the risk of confusion with the unrelated Osvaldo Castro, but we can get around this.) -- Hoary (talk) 01:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since the submission is in English Wikipedia, I think Oswaldo Castro would be OK, eliminating the confusion, as you say. Had the draft been submitted to Spanish Wikipedia I would say keep the second last name. I chose to submit it in English because more than half of Castro's life was spent outside of a Spanish speaking environment.Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 12:15, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As you'll have noticed, I've moved the draft. The eventual article will have a little note about Osvaldo Castro at the top (and then the article about Osvaldo Castro will have a little note about Oswaldo Castro at the top). -- Hoary (talk) 22:04, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Linking

Oscar Waldoosty, this, I hope, shows how it's done. -- Hoary (talk) 02:05, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

op. cit.

Oscar Waldoosty, please don't use "op. cit." (or "ibid", "ibidem", "loc. cit."). Thanks! -- Hoary (talk) 23:32, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning, Hoary (talk). Will do. Thanks. Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 13:59, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resubmission

Hoary (talk) I am resubmitting. I have tried to address as many "vague" sources I can by using print identification, back of article for clues, other articles referring to the same subject, etc. I have been looking for any source which actually says Castro met with the President of Chile instead of the sources I have which say that 'he will meet'. I cannot figure out how to declare that the subject I am writing about is my father although I have tried to understand the literature on the topic. Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 14:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC) Oscar Waldoosty[reply]

Thank you for working hard at it, Oscar Waldoosty. However, a lot of it remains unreferenced. Much of the unreferenced material is interesting and, speaking personally, I'll be sorry to see it go; however, my personal opinions are of no importance. Everything in a Wikipedia article must be referenced, and referenced to material to which the public have access. (The access doesn't have to be easy: for example, the material might be in Ecuador and only available to postgraduate students....) -- Hoary (talk) 00:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the individuals and libraries I've contacted have answered and have been very helpful, some never got back to me. If unreferenced material has to be cut, so be it. If in the meanwhile I receive verifiable references, can I reinsert the cut material even after the article is published? Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 01:40, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes of course: if a draft is promoted to article status and previously undiscovered sources later emerge to back additional material, then the additional, sourced material can be added. -- Hoary (talk) 02:10, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Whittle down!

Here's a reference: "La dinámica del crédito agropecuario," Revista Moneda y Crédito, por Oswaldo Castro, Miembro del Instituto Iberoamericano de Cooperación Económica, funcionario de los Servicios de Información de la F.A.O, Roma, Madrid, Diciembre 1956. I am ignorant of both economics and the Spanish language, but I'd guess that this could instead be simply Oswaldo Castro, "La dinámica del crédito agropecuario," Revista Moneda y Crédito (Madrid), December 1956.

(Incidentally, if the journal shows him as "Oswaldo Castro Intriago", it would be better if this reference also did so. Although "Oswaldo Castro" is a better draft/title for the article as a whole.)

This is of course minor and unimportant. However, there are a lot of places where trimming (and English rather than Spanish for names of months and the like) would be beneficial. -- Hoary (talk) 00:33, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. I'll also translate the newspaper headlines. Thanks. Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 01:31, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oscar Waldoosty, it's not necessary to translate the headlines or other titles. But if you do translate any, be sure to retain the original and to somehow show that the English is merely an explanation; so for example Oswaldo Castro, "La dinámica del crédito agropecuario" (i.e. "The dynamic of agricultural credit"), Revista Moneda y Crédito (Madrid), December 1956 (and please excuse my guesswork). -- Hoary (talk) 02:08, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just started looking at the many, many Spanish headlines and source titles, and am glad it's not necessary. It would make the reference section much longer and cumbersome too. Checked the journal. It says Oswaldo Castro. BTW Thanks for the editing you've done, Hoary (talk). Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 02:21, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's a lot more to do: search within the draft for "Año", "Núm", "página", "Enero", etc. -- Hoary (talk) 23:10, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think I got them all. Please let me know where else I can whittle down. I am also addressing the "primary source" entries. U. of Michigan asked me to send them a copy of the diploma. Castro was not readily on their graduate list. They will get back to me soon (Covid - backlog is their delay). I have secondary sources from two Ecuadorian newspapers that he completed his studies there (already on the reference list). For the Coloma Silva letter it will be more difficult to locate secondary sources, although I did find out that he must have been a friend from way back in Quito high school days.Oscar Waldoosty (talk) 13:49, 28 November 2020 (UTC) Oscar Waldoosty (talk)[reply]