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Buttered toast

"but his spelling goes all to pieces over delicate words like measles and buttered toast."

But-tered tooooast... --Damian Yerrick (☎) 03:09, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discontinued?

Hasn't Owl been discontinued?, I noticed he hasn't aapered since Piglet's Big Movie. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.244.187.97 (talk) 14:17, 21 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

It looks so. He is not shown on the Winnie the Pooh website :(. I wonder who is committing wolicide at Disney? Owlqueen 18:06, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

English

I'm not a native speaker, but I don't think this is correct English:

Unlike most of the original cast of the books, the illustrations of Owl look more like a living animal and than a stuffed one.

Should be "live animal", not living animal. Has it been changed? Lstanley1979 (talk) 22:46, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed. Lstanley1979 (talk) 22:47, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wol

"The reason that Owl is named Wol is because Wol is a Kentish and Sussex dialect word for Owl,[1] which Milne would have been familiar with, living on a farm at Hartfield at the time he was writing Winnie the Pooh."

Is this true? Seems unlikely. The link to the glossary provides only that a certain "Peter Ashby" contributed the word to a BBC survey, and several men I know of sixty plus use "wol" for "owl" because of how Milne depicted Owl spelling his own name. I think it is mostly because Milne's Owl called himself Wol that people call owls wols, and the BBC reference doesn't prove it is an existing dialectical word. I always "Wol" was how Owl can't spell his own name. I've taken this passage it off the front page while it is under discussion. Lstanley1979 (talk) 18:26, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Peter Ashby" may have contributed the word to the BBC, which is why I was able to include it without getting into WP:OR. That said, my grandfather used to refer to wols, and he was born during WWI. There are various books on Kent and Sussex dialect, which may well cover the word too. I've added the entry as a separate section. Lstanley1979, it would have been better if you had contacted me when you removed the entry. I will try to find a better reference than the BBC website for this. Mjroots (talk) 07:32, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I should also point out that it is the only part of the article that is referenced! Mjroots (talk) 07:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If I recall correctly it was stated in the books that Owl couldn't spell and had called himself WOL on the door sign; he also had a misspelt side sign. The Soviet version of the film spells Owl's name on "her" house (owls are female in Slavic grammar and Owl is always portrayed as a woman in Russian variants on "Vinni Pukh") as "SAVA" rather than "SOVA" suggesting the misspelling theory rather than the dialect theory; since owls have many names in the Russian language (filin, sych etc.) if it had been dialectical, then one of those words might have been used instead. I took the passage out because it is possible that Milne was aware of the word "wol", particularly if it predates his books, but the explicit reason I believe was always Owl being able to write but not properly. I took it out because it was speculation rather than hard fact; the only way to truly validate this would be to find a direct reference to Milne's own reasons for spelling Owl's name that way which are IIRC in the book (I don't have a copy - perhaps someone could help with this?). "Wol" also strikes me as less a dialectical variant and more a childish way of saying Owl, given that the former word corresponds more to English patterns of orthography more than the second. Lstanley1979 (talk) 15:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Owl spells his name Wol because Milne said he did. I've always used the word "Wol" myself. Milne lived in Hartfield at the time he wrote WtP, so it is likely that he was familiar with the word. As I said earlier, a book reference carries more weight than a website so I'll try to find a book reference. Mjroots (talk) 17:08, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kingdom Hearts

No mention of Kingdom Hearts? Pathetic... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.45.83.74 (talk) 10:11, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]