Talk:Park Chung-hee

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Health Care?[edit]

Park Chung Hee is also noted for launching his efforts for universal health care system for Koreans. I would like to see this included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.95.72 (talk) 00:50, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Dictator[edit]

Changing the POV "dictator" to NPOV "leader"--72.191.31.112 (talk) 01:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Somebody changed this back to "autocratic dictator", and I agree with them. They also added two sources. The sentence in question is in the main paragraph at the top of the article. FFLaguna (talk) 14:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Wow, this person made this comment a full year before me. I'm going to remove the NPOV template from the main page now. FFLaguna (talk) 14:21, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
It is quite unWikipedian to describe a military ruler who is elected president as a "autocratic dictator". Furthermore he cannot have been "fervidly" condemned, as there is no such word! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.57.223.229 (talk) 07:49, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I agree. Although he made a Coup d'etat in 1961, he was elected in 1963. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Franknam96 (talkcontribs) 12:05, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Relationship to Korea war crimes[edit]

I have replaced the link to Korean war crimes if for no other purpose than Park involvement in the cover of them.

The flood of exposure that happened in post-Korean War South Korea came to an immediate halt when the United States backed the military coup by Park Chung-Hee in 1961.

Many individuals that came forward to report war crimes and crimes against humanity were sent to prison. Many remained locked up for decades and suffered torture.

Koreans use "han" to describe this suppressed grief and rage thousands of families had to suffer during this period. --Ex-oneatf (talk) 09:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I provide the follow sourse and propose its inclusion in the article. Would any individuals opposing this please provide their sources. Thank you.
Src: The International Association of Democratic Lawyers (IADL), an organization in consultative status with ECOSOC, represented at UNESCO and UNICEF and affiliate to the Korea Truth Commission. E/CN.4/Sub.2/2003/NGO/12 14 July 2003 --Ex-oneatf (talk) 09:45, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Chopsticks[edit]

"Park is also credited for the enforcement of stainless steel eating utensils and bowls." Really? I thought Koreans had been using metal sujeo for centuries... 125.69.147.143 (talk) 06:45, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


Traditional sujeo is made of wood or brass, not stainless. So, traditional brass sujeo was not used often but in holidays or rituals and took a lot of effort to shine the rusty sujeo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.43.122.252 (talk) 12:21, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Chuju[edit]

Why does Chuju redirect here? Badagnani (talk) 01:46, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

This is a name of Parkchunghee from child hoos. It was given to mean that his essense is strong. 174.99.110.64 (talk) 06:22, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

1961 or 1963?[edit]

I am seeing both dates in the article for when he took office- this should be something concrete.

-Simfan34 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.198.55.131 (talk) 20:17, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Religious affiliation[edit]

One section of the article states his religion as Christianity, and another section states Buddhism. Might want to clear that up. --RisingSunWiki 22:49, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Park's Communist Connection[edit]

Since I no longer allow myself to contribute anything on South Korean politics. (Koreans are quite scary online) I wonder if anybody has an information on Park Chung-hee and his Communist affiliations. He was used to be a member of a Communist Party in South Korea before the Korean War. (Korean source)

It's kind of disturbing to say. It is kinda freaky to think that his daughter is a presidential candidate right now. Komitsuki (talk) 08:55, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Takaki Masao?[edit]

Knowing absolutely nothing about naming conventions in Korea, like, I imagine, the majority of readers, I'm wondering... what does Takaki Masao mean? It redirects here, and is listed parenthetically under his name in the infobox, but there's no mention of it anywhere else in the article. — Francophonie&Androphilie(Je vous invite à me parler) 07:13, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

That is the Japanese name he took up when he joined the Japanese-sponsored Manchurian army. There is quite a controversy as to the extent of Park's pro-Japanese leanings. The name has no particular meaning - it is a conventional Japanese surname and forname. And by the way - I am a Francophobe and Anglophile - almost the same, no? - (Joke.) Akafd76 12:37, 21 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akafd76 (talkcontribs)

Takaki Masao is not partial name, not second name, not assumed name. Takaki Masao was his official name and legal name before 1945. In that period, He didn't use 'Park Chung-hee'. He used the name 'Takaki Masao' on official documents before 1945. That is not controversial, but confirmed by historical records. -- 타이호 (talk) 14:35, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Violations of WP:OWN[edit]

I noticed that there editors who prefer to see a crap article with contradictions poor writing and awful prose (but pushing POVs) is preferential to a well-written article that has little or few of these issues.

I think it is disgusting that WP:OWN, WP:BOLD makes that clear. So reverting back to the crappy article is plain embarrassing!86.178.232.169 (talk) 18:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

The Yusin Constitution was clearly dictatorial[edit]

From the Yusin phase from 1974 Park was clearly a very autocratic dictator (that was the purpose of the constitution). You've locked up the article now but I draw your attention to this news source about the Saenuri Party attempting (largely successfully) to alter foreign reporting of the period: http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/565724.html Akafd76 18:58, 19 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akafd76 (talkcontribs)

Proposal to add a one line statement regarding Park's daughter Geun-hye[edit]

In the 'Legacy' section, the last sentence states the following regarding Park's daughter, Geun-hye: "She later resigned her post in order to prepare a presidential bid for an upcoming election. However, she lost her bid to her intra-party rival, Lee Myung Bak.[22]" Please add a statement that clearly indicates that in 2012, Park Geun-hye won her bid to become president; i.e In 2012, she ran again, this time winning her bid to become the first female president of South Korea.[1] Awd smirk (talk) 01:53, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Protection of this article expired before this request was responded to. As long as the article does not become protected again, you should be able to make this edit yourself as long as it is within the policies on consensus, verifiability, neutral point-of-view, and biographies of living persons. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:37, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Fix the intro[edit]

I don't know what's going on in the intro paragraph but it looks like it was written by someone with either a limited understanding of English or with no ability to edit. Examples:

He then re-elected for twice.

he restored the constitution and made himself became the president in life

Despite surviving two assassination attempts by agents of North Korea, Park was List of assassinated people on October 26, 1979 by the chief of his own security services.

he ruled the country in a dictator

I really don't know how the intro could end up in such a sad state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.89.224 (talk) 09:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

cleaned up.--Goldsztajn (talk) 11:24, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Yusin[edit]

Many people say that Yusin was just like bureaucratic authoritarianism. It could be a little bit subjective, but scholars and sociologists explain Yusin was similar to despotic governments of Latin America countries. Tksgk262 (talk) 13:58, 7 April 2013 (UTC)Sanha Lee(Tksgk

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Citations needed, and I doubt citations reffering to definition pages on Wikipedia count.[edit]

I added a citation needed tag to a section of the article. I noticed a few problems with it. First, a paragraph lacks any citations. When you call someone a dictator, you need evidence to back it up. Second, the paragraph reads poorly. So too does the line after this paragraph, with a couple typos. Finally, the line after the paragraph has two citations to definition pages on Wikipedia. A definition on what constitutes a dictatorship is not proof that someone was a dictator.

I do believe that there is sufficient evidence to argue that Park was a dictator out there, which is why I did not just delete the section. But let us see it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.241.189.200 (talk) 07:57, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
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