Talk:Paula Fletcher

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There are now a number of citations for Ms Fletcher.

This is now a well cited and sourced page, lets continue to keep this an accurate representation of her.

I agree with removal of the rink discussion. It seemed problematic and biased. DowntownK (talk) 14:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I might beg to differ. This page is well-sourced, but it doesn't seem particularly representative. It strikes me that we're taking a number of relatively minor controversies and exaggerating their significance, to a rather serious degree. I'll probably review this article in the near future. CJCurrie (talk) 20:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Explaining my recent edits[edit]

There are really three problems with the information that I removed in my last two edits:

  • The information was mostly taken from primary sources. Primary sources are not absolutely forbidden as sources, but they should be used with extreme caution due to the possibility for selective quoting and misrepresentation (see WP:PRIMARY).
  • There seems to be a problem with undue weight, as regards the cumulative references to Fletcher's links with the labour movement. That Fletcher has a labour background is not particularly controversial, but the way the information is presented here seems ... well, skewed somehow. It almost seems as though we're harping on the point, and there's a distinct possibility that some readers (and some voters) could interpret this in a negative light. I am not suggesting this was deliberate.
  • Some of the information is not specifically relevant to Fletcher. That the labour council supported her is relevant here; that this council made a general statement about its political strategy in the same period is not. CJCurrie (talk) 06:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Legal fees reimbursement[edit]

I removed this section from the article because Fletcher's only involvement was that she sponsored a motion on this subject. This incident is not about Fletcher at all, rather it involves a dispute between Adrian Heaps and Michelle Berardinetti. To a lesser extent it also involves Doug Holyday who launched a lawsuit over the motion and Giorgio Mammoliti and Sandra Bussin who were also included in the lawsuit. I am asking for opinions about this section on whether it should be included in the Fletcher article. Thanks, EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 21:32, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I originally put the text in, I think it is an interesting point that she sponsored this motion. It gives substance to people seeking to understand her actions at council. It is important for readers to note that she sponsored a motion against advice of the City's lawyer. That being said, I don't think her narrative is hurt substantially by its absence. DowntownK (talk) 14:20, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have added the libel lawsuit episode to the Heaps and Berardinetti articles. I think this text properly belongs on the Holyday article since he launched a lawsuit about council's actions. Fletcher could still be mentioned in that context. EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk) 19:37, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Text[edit]

In December 2009, Fletcher sponsored a motion by Toronto City Council that went against its own legal advice regarding a proposal to reimburse Ward 35 councillor Adrian Heaps for legal fees stemming from a three-year-old lawsuit.[1]

Fletcher moved that council pay the outstanding $36,000 balance of Councillor Heaps’ legal fees, incurred as a result of a defamation suit brought against him in 2007 by Michelle Berardinetti, the candidate whom Heaps had narrowly defeated in the 2006 municipal elections.

City solicitor Anna Kinastowski had advised against reimbursement in a November 30, 2009 memo to council. She warned the courts have found “municipal council has no authority to reimburse a member of council for legal expenses incurred in relation to activity engaged in outside of the office of councillor” including activities as candidates prior to becoming councillor.[2] Council voted 21-4 to adopt the motion.[3]

In January 2010, the Toronto Party launched a lawsuit against the City and councillors for ignoring the solicitor’s advice. Councillor Doug Holyday also launched a lawsuit. They claim those councillors failed their fiduciary duty.[4] A recent decision on the lawsuit was released by the Toronto Party who is claiming a victory on the case.[5]

In January 2010, amid growing media attention on the issue, Heaps wrote his colleagues on council telling them he would not accept the money anymore. The council subsequently reversed its position.[6]

References

  1. ^ http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2009/cc/bgrd/mm42.3.pdf
  2. ^ http://www.torontoobserver.ca/2009/12/17/city-councillor-gets-legal-fees-reimbursed/
  3. ^ http://www.insidetoronto.com/news/cityhall/article/229373--heaps-lawsuit-fees-to-be-covered-by-city
  4. ^ http://www.thetorontoparty.com/Respondingsubmission.pdf
  5. ^ http://www.thetorontoparty.com/Courtdecision.pdf
  6. ^ http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/01/27/12640656.html

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