Talk:Pilzno (Hasidic dynasty)

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Hello all

I am hoping that others will eventually get to this page and put in the stories that comprise the character of Zaidy. The hello to the priest that would come out and stand with respect in front of his church to the amazement of the parishoners. Cops that would stand and wait, for hours if it came to that, for hours. Never losing their patience just to get their 'brocha' from Zaidy. Walking the streets for hours pesach to ensure the community sedarim functioned. It was long after chatzos when he would start kidush. The hungry knowing that Rabbi Singer could and would get them food and shelter. Rav Moshe Feinstien Zatzal appointed Zaidy as rav hamachshir of the mikvah.

Wikipedia is not a diary, nor a newspaper, nor a memorial project. While these anecdotes are special, they do not belong in a biography. Yoninah (talk) 20:22, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pilzno is not an "Other"

By the categorization of Hasidic dynasties, Pilzno is actually in the subcategory of Western Galicia, as reference to any Yiddish-labeled map of Galicia will show. I don't happen to have one, so I transliterated the town names on the map of the region surrounding Pilzno at http://en.odleglosci.pl/poland,map,Pilzno.html

I hope that someone who cares for Pilzno will move it into its proper category -- I have no idea how and where to make the change, because the Hasidic dynasty category container page does not appear to allow changes.

I suspect that whoever put Pilzno into the "Other" category thought Rabbi Singer came from the large Czech city and not the small Galician village. Perhaps an entry reading Pilzno (Galicia) will make things clear.

Facts: Rabbi Singer's Pilzno should be categorized as being in Western Galicia because it is surrounded by towns listed as part of Western Galicia on the Hasidic dynasty page. It is NE of Gorlitz and Gribov, SE of Dombrov and Stitshin, S of Melitz, SW of Dembitz and Ropshitz, W of Pshevorsk, and NW of Strizov and Dinov.76.191.189.74 (talk) 04:57, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would love to get rid of those silly "pilzno" quotes. I can't believe the Rav Singer would actually say any of that drivel. Especially since he didn't speak English all that well.

I moved the listing to Western Galicia. I also think the Pilzo sayings are silly, but they are sourced to a reliable source, so who am I to say? Yoninah (talk) 21:57, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So put them in, but do it in the original Yiddish, they mist likely make more sense that way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.27.133 (talk) 22:41, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unexplained reversions

I do not understand the stream of edits by 84.111.114.107 reverting the article back to the way it was before verified sources and an encyclopedic tone were added to the article. If there are secondary sources (not Pilzno publications) citing Singer's ancestors or information about the Pilzno Institute of Higher Learning, then by all means include it. Otherwise, inclusion will have to wait for reliable sources to be provided. Yoninah (talk) 13:38, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think that some of the pilzno family was not happy with the changes made. You are right that is needs better citings, there are books connected to the chasidut, why is not good sourcing? the chasidut also have a very beautiful out look which they what to come though on the page, they were the 'sayings.' At this point in time the hub of pilzno is coming from the institute, what more info would be good. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.111.114.107 (talk) 14:43, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. I suggest that you read the short section, WP:AUTO#IFEXIST, to get a concise idea of what a Wikipedia article is all about. (In the following discussion, please click on the blue links to read up on other important policies.) Articles on Wikipedia must be cited to sources other than the primary source; i.e., a newspaper or magazine article about the Hasidut rather than the Hasidut's own publications. (The Hasidut's own publications should be listed in a Bibliography section.) I admit that when I set out to improve the article per Wikipedia standards, I could not find any secondary sources about the Hasidut or the Institute, and thus you see the short article that remains. Even the part about Rabbi Braver has no reliable source for it, so it has a "citation needed" tag and is subject to deletion if a source cannot be provided for it. Perhaps you can find a booklet or an article or something published by someone other than the Institute, and quote the information in it in this article. Otherwise, we have no choice but to wait until something turns up. Regarding the "sayings", I agree with the editor above that they sounded rather silly. If you'd like to gain consensus on this point, please start a new discussion on this talk page. Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:16, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thank you and we will start looking in to things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.111.114.107 (talk) 21:09, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]