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There is an interesting (IMHO) interview with Vil Mirzayanov on Novichok published by ERR (in Estonian) on 8 September 2020.^[1] — Pietadè (talk) 20:45, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Most sources say otherwise, but it is a matter of fact that some other people, like Bykov did recover [1], [2], some after being poisoned in an airport or on a plane, just like Navalny. There is a pattern. My very best wishes (talk) 20:19, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Anton Aleksejev (2020-09-08). "Novitšoki mürgi looja ERR-ile: Navalnõid ei tahetud tappa, vaid teha temast invaliid" [The creator of the Novichok poison to ERR: There was no intention to kill Navalny but the aim was to make him disabled] (in Estonian). ERR. Retrieved 2020-09-12.

OPCW report

To have similar structural characteristics does not mean "being part of a group Novichok", does not mean "to confirm the presence of a Novichok agent".

For example, vinegar has a common structural characteristic with amino acid, -COOH, but we can't say that vinegar belongs to amino acids. Losev1972 (talk) 15:14, 20 October 2020 (UTC) Alexey.[reply]

- What you write is called "original research". Please, read WP:ORIGINAL. I will add more sources to the article for you.--RenatUK (talk) 15:31, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - It's not me who writes "have similar structural characteristics", It's OPCW. All the words about "confirmed the presence of a Novichok agent" it's just an interpretation, the fantasy. Losev1972 (talk) 15:51, 20 October 2020 (UTC) Alexey.[reply]
    - OPCW statement is a primary source. Do not analyze, evaluate, interpret, or synthesize material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so. Please, read about WP:PRIMARY.--RenatUK (talk) 15:56, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - OPCW statement is a primary source. Do not analyze, evaluate, interpret, or synthesize material found in a primary source yourself; Do not write "OPCW announced that results of testing samples obtained from Navalny had confirmed the presence of a Novichok agent"! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Losev1972 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - What you write looks like this: "do not write as it is written in reliable sources". You are trying to interpret OPCW statement by yourself, instead of using secondary reliable sources.--RenatUK (talk) 16:23, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        No, I'am trying to use Primary source instead of using secondary reliable sources. That's all. Primary source: "the biomarkers ... have similar structural characteristics as the toxic chemicals belonging to schedules 1.A.14 and 1.A.15". All another words about "confirmed the presence" are interpretations and fantasy. Good luck. Losev1972 (talk) 16:33, 20 October 2020 (UTC) Alexey.[reply]

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The poisoning of Navalny is happened day after day, exactly 80 years after the assassination of Trotsky. - Хедин (talk) 05:36, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Original Research. Forbidden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.25.210 (talk) 15:59, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Injured?

Confused why the info box says “1 injured” with 0 deaths, given that he’s dead.

If this is some quirk of how the info box is used, consider just leaving those lines out? Seems confusing. 2601:601:9D00:591:708D:9A5C:AFEB:329F (talk) 04:51, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"... he’s dead" who? Renat 05:07, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Answer: His poisoning story is from 2020. He survived. He died in prison in 2024.

Telephone conversation with agent

Navalny's telephone conversation with Kudryavtsev was called a forgery by the Kremlin. The response on this Wikipedia page is:

"However, Bellingcat had arranged for its representatives to be present during the call, and they were; there are direct witnesses, in addition to the published audio and visual records of the call."

This seems a little weak. Are there any better sources out there? After all, the guy on the other end of the line could have been someone else simply pretending to be Kudryavtsev. Is there any way Navalny's team have tried to prove with good evidence that they were talking to the real agent? Poorpooreyes (talk) 20:10, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[0-1] Anton Aleksejev (2020-09-08). "Novitšoki mürgi looja ERR-ile: Navalnõid ei tahetud tappa, vaid teha temast invaliid" [The creator of the Novichok poison to ERR: There was no intention to kill Navalny but the aim was to make him disabled] (in Estonian). ERR. Retrieved 2020-09-12.

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