Talk:Roger (American Dad!)
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- 1 Untitled
- 2 Fair use rationale for Image:Rogercameo.png
- 3 Character's Basis
- 4 Vietnam/2e French-Indochinese war veteran Member
- 5 Immortal?
- 6 Sexuality
- 7 Roger calls Stan, and Francine- Staniel and Franiel.
- 8 Gender=Male?
- 9 File:Roger and Klaus.JPG Nominated for Deletion
- 10 Disguises
- 11 Roger for President
- 12 Homosexuality
- 13 Kudos
Crazily crufty. Needs a rewrite or merge (too in-universe) badly. dfg 05:23, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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Seth McFarlane's said in interviews that both Roger and Stewie are based on gay actors from the 20th century. It seems to me that the actor Alan Sues is the basis for this character (Roger). Can anyone confirm? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 20:02, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- No. It's obviously Paul Lynde Roger is based on. -- AvatarMN (talk) 20:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Roger = Cleveland Brown?!? Who are these 'some' who claim a similarity?
- Brown is another fictional character
- His race is very obviously different from Roger's
- His character isn't even from the same series
The two characters are very different on so many other levels: voice register and intonation, bitchiness, sexuality...
I always thought Roger was based on Charles Nelson Reilly... The voice, the acting, the changing outfits... It all makes sense! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Vietnam/2e French-Indochinese war veteran Member
Roger isn't enlisted in the Category of Fictional Veterans he said in a episode that he was a VietCong member.
How can we make judgments on "his" sexualtiy (possible bi-sexual or gay) considering "he" is not human, and we do not know the classification for sex (male or female) in "his" species. Roger may just be attracted to all humans that fit "his" idea of an ideal mate. Since we do not know how gender is differentiated in "his" species (if it exists at all) I dont think we can definitivly say that "he" is attracted to members of the same sex. I find the gender classifications applied to Roger by the Smith family (when they refer to the alien with male pronouns) to be irrelevant as the Smith's, in a similar way to the post WWII cargo cults, are operationalizing the existance of Roger within their own world view and, as such, apply gender to the alien where none may exist.
- Because it's a fictional portrayal and is written along certain lines. It's not like it's an exploration of non-human sexuality, or the bizarre doings of some real-life alien we can't fit into our existing models; the TV writers portray him one way or another for one purpose or another. Don't let the feint sci-fi conceit confuse that.~ZytheTalk to me! 01:02, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Roger calls Stan, and Francine- Staniel and Franiel.
I removed the male classification from the gender category in the character infobox because even though the smiths refer to roger as "he" or "him", roger doesn't have a penis and gender classifications shouldn't apply anyways because the sexual characteristics of rogers species aren't known.
- I`ve reverted it. The show refers to him as a male and I don`t think we should be overruling that based only on our personal analysis of him appeareance.--126.96.36.199 (talk) 05:28, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with keeping it listed male, and 188.8.131.52's interpretation. CTJF83 18:55, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
In the episode where Roger was a member of the hockey team that won the gold medal, he says that the steroids he took shrank his penis.
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While early Roger was unable and forbidden to leave the house (which is mentioned in the article) and had a hard time, finding a way, that he could be around people (other than the Smith family). Numerous episodes, such as Family Affair, The Best Christmas Story Never Told and Weiner of Our Discontent showcases Roger in the 50's, 70's and 90's, walking around in public wearing disguises. This is a retcon, that should be mentioned in the article. --coq87rouge —Preceding undated comment added 16:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC).
- Not necessarily a retcon...it's a sometimes-absurd animated comedy with sci-fi overtones...we have no reason to assume that the restrictions placed on Roger while living in the Smith home applied at other times. Despite his bizarre morphology he is readily able to fool others - even the Smiths - regarding his identity. Without others' interference he would have been able to exist in any period undetected.PurpleChez (talk) 02:39, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Roger for President
This edit was reverted. It was unsourced but I have found sources (not independent, though) that say the information is valid. There are other sources that don't meet the defintion of reliable. The IP just had trouble wording the edit correctly and didn't bother with sources.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:05, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
"Roger is revealed to have had a homosexual romantic relationship with another member of his alien race"
I wouldn't say he is homosexual, since he doesn't seem to have a classic gender. On his races spaceship we don't see female versions of his race, so I'd assume his race only has one gender. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 12:21, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
This article is extremely well-written. Far too often, articles about prime time animation are clogged with endless, minor details and other fancruft. ("In S01E04 Biff reports that his favorite color is blue. In S01E05 he mentions that he is allergic to onions...") The article maintains an encyclopedic tone despite the fact that it deals with a pansexual, degenerate 1600-year-old alien with Paul Lynde's voice. Huzzah!!PurpleChez (talk) 02:31, 31 March 2017 (UTC)