Talk:Salah Choudhury

This article is biased

This does not include the official reason why Bangladesh government is charging him for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.142.75 (talk • contribs)

• Mr Choudhury was convicted "on charge of smuggling information out of the country and was awarded a three-month term in the case" and "in February 2015, Mr Choudhury was convicted for four years on charge of revolt against Bangladesh government(sedition)".

• It mentions the charges of sedition, treason, blasphemy and espionage. Stop adding uncited material. Andjam 09:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

• There are always 2 sides to any story. This article only discuss the view in favor of Salah Choudhury. Why is the other angle written only in 1 sentence? xsp85 07:32, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

• Bangladesh passport forbids traveling to Israel. He was arrested for violating passport laws. Same thing would have happened if some one before 1990s went to South Africa. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.168.236.229 (talk) 12:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

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Lets be fair here

The neutrality and the Talk page of this Wiki page is really strange. Most important information are skipped or wiped but the person is over promoted. Why his convictions are not written on this Wiki page! Mr Choudhury was convicted "on charge of smuggling information out of the country and was awarded a three-month term in the case" and "in February 2015, Mr Choudhury was convicted for four years on charge of revolt against Bangladesh government(sedition)". 117.198.68.193(talk) 04:54, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

According to CIA's The World Factbook, Bangladesh has population on 147,365,352. The percentage of Bangladeshi who are Jewish? 0% Question, why would a Bangladeshi weekly magazine be made up of almost all Jewish "special contributors," when the percentage of Jews living in Bangladesh is 0. (I'm not trying to be racist here, just raising the question. I hope you understand. I have many Jewish friend. I'm not Anti-Semite.) xsp85 08:3, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

• I don't understand why people are arguing whether this piece is bias or not, the point is, a man is facing death for attempting to go to Israel! Was he a terrorist? No. Was he carrying weapons or illegal drugs with him? No. But I suppose that's a fair sentence for someone who, heaven forbid, tries flying to the enemy country.

Completely trumped up charges!

I don't think the 'Weekly Blitz' has mostly jewish contributors or anything close. Check out their masthead: http://www.weeklyblitz.net/?cat=6

'AHSAN' 'Haque' "NURUZZAMAN" "Majumder" -- doesn;t read like a chapter of B'nai Brith. But by all means, lets hear "the other side" -- we certainly don't want to discriminate against the anti-semites. Heck, some of my best friends are Jew haters!

• Read the article of Espionage in wikipedia, and see how many people were executed and life imprisonment in USA or Russia for that. Bangladesh is a democratic nation, has independent judiciary. If Mr Choudhury is innocent, he and the western media should be confident about his release fair and square.

"Bangladesh is a democratic nation" with an "independent judiciary"? If Mr. Choudhury is found innocent (don't hold your breath), then he can only hope they won't kill him quietly, after all. Please, don't insult out intelligence. Besides, your comparison to Russia is ludicrous and exhibits your utter lack of knowledge of Russian history (take it from a Russian dissident - me). And by the way, just about the only people who have been executed for espionage during peace time in the U.S. were the Rosenberg coouple - and he as sure as hell was guilty of high treason and spying for the enemy (USSR). Do you really believe what you yourself are saying - that Choudhury is a spy? If so, you need to read the article on "insanity" in Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.123.114 (talk) 23:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Killing him quietly doesn't contest the fact that Bangladesh has an independent judiciary. There are plenty of terrorists in Bangladesh who'd be more than happy to kill a Jewish spy. That doesn't mean Bangladesh doesn't have an independent judiciary. What you're saying are intuitions, and not verifiable truths. Ratibgreat (talk) 04:21, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Weekly Blitz এর প্রতিষ্ঠাতা দেশদ্রোহী সালাহ উদ্দিন শোয়েব চৌধুরী এর আগেও বাংলাদেশের বিপক্ষে ইসরাইল এর প্রতিনিধি হয়ে কাজ করার অপরাধে জেল রিমান্ড হয়ে থাকে এবং ১৯৯৯ সালে ই-মেইলর মাধ্যমে শেখ হাসিনা এবং তার পরিবারকে জীবন হুমকি দেওয়ার অপরাধে ৬ মাস জেল হয় এবং ২১শে গ্রেনেট হামলায়ে এই সালাহ উদ্দিন শোয়েব চৌধুরী জরিত ছিল।

বর্তমানে দেশদ্রোহী সালাহ উদ্দিন শোয়েব চৌধুরী আওয়ামীলীগের সাপোর্টারের বেশ ধরে শেষ রক্ষা পাওয়ার চেষ্টা করছে ।

এই দেশদ্রোহী এর সকল অপকর্মের তথ্য লিঙ্কে দেয়া আছে

https://drive.google.com/.../1_jKfDQeLhelbFydMaAZuAbm5NC9... Sajalony (talk) 12:29, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Sdsouza 20:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Article Link

1. The New York Times, Risk of Journalism in Bangladesh <ref: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E05E6DF123CF937A25751C1A9659C8B63>

2. Incubating ultra radicalism <ref: http://www.mideastweb.org/salah01.htm>

3. The Wall Street Journal, The Americas <ref: http://www.opinionjournal.com/wsj/?id=110009088>

4. The Australian, No tolerance for love and mercy in Bangladesh <ref: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20758306-32522,00.html>

5. Canada Free Press, The Moslem Hero of Moderation <ref: http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2499>

6. American Chronicle, Anti Semitic People in Associated Press <ref: http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/60675>

7. Pakistan Daily, Media under attack in Bangladesh <ref: http://www.daily.pk/world/asia/82-asia/3358-media-under-attack-in-bangladesh.html>

8. The New Nation, Congressional briefing on Bangladesh <ref: http://nation.ittefaq.com/issues/2008/05/23/news0493.htm>

9. Voice of America, Freedom of speech in South Asia <ref: http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/archive/2007-08/2007-08-14-voa2.cfm?CFID=1329325&CFTOKEN=23583971>

10. Berliner Zeitung, Der Andere Moslem <ref: http://www.berlinonline.de/berliner-zeitung/spezial/dossiers/wie_soll_ich_leben/75561/index.php>

11. The Wall Street Journal, Bangladesh on trial <ref: http://www.interfaithstrength.com/images/WSJ.html> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoopnews (talk • contribs) 03:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Massive rewrite needed

This article as it is presently written reads like an uncritical hagiography, laughably presents egregiously false information ("the most influential anti-Jihadist newspaper in Bangladesh","enjoys high credibility in the West,"has already turned into the largest and most influential periodical in Bangladesh" etc) as facts, and omits information which shows the subject in much poorer light. It also provides no citations for the claims that he was charged with Blasphemy and treason. The whole thing has to be rewritten before it is in compliance with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Tec15 (talk) 11:10, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree -- the article needs references from reliable sources. Right now, it lacks sources for many parts. I have marked them with CN tags. --Ragib (talk) 15:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Dear Ragib|Ragib], I am not expert in commenting on wekipedia. Please show us the reason , why the man's bioghrapy shuold be wekified. And the newspaper weekly bltz is not famous and why it will be most infulential. Please come to dhaka and find me a hard copy of the weekly blitz . I think its sef promotiuon by Mr. Chowdury with the help of his friends . I think the articel should remove from wekipedia as soon as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.193.173.101 (talk) 15:15, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Weekly Blitz এর প্রতিষ্ঠাতা দেশদ্রোহী সালাহ উদ্দিন শোয়েব চৌধুরী এর আগেও বাংলাদেশের বিপক্ষে ইসরাইল এর প্রতিনিধি হয়ে কাজ করার অপরাধে জেল রিমান্ড হয়ে থাকে এবং ১৯৯৯ সালে ই-মেইলর মাধ্যমে শেখ হাসিনা এবং তার পরিবারকে জীবন হুমকি দেওয়ার অপরাধে ৬ মাস জেল হয় এবং ২১শে গ্রেনেট হামলায়ে এই সালাহ উদ্দিন শোয়েব চৌধুরী জরিত ছিল।

বর্তমানে দেশদ্রোহী সালাহ উদ্দিন শোয়েব চৌধুরী আওয়ামীলীগের সাপোর্টারের বেশ ধরে শেষ রক্ষা পাওয়ার চেষ্টা করছে ।

এই দেশদ্রোহী এর সকল অপকর্মের তথ্য লিঙ্কে দেয়া আছে

https://drive.google.com/.../1_jKfDQeLhelbFydMaAZuAbm5NC9... Sajalony (talk) 12:27, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Shahjalal vs Zia - Questionable authenticity

The name of the Airport in which Salah was arrested is stated, "Shahjalal Int'l Airport". The newspaper quoted also is quoted to say "Shahjalal Int'l Airport). Interesting to note here is that the airport was renamed such only in 2010 and the name Zia Int'l Airport existed in 2003, during the time of the arrest. The author of the article also fiddled with the actual quote to mention "Shahjalal" instead of the original article from the newspaper The Daily Star where it says "Zia" (just follow the citation given).

It seems like the author of the article has fiddled with evidence on purpose, and hence the authenticity of the article is questionable.

Ratibgreat (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Controversy section

I have added controversy section regarding Salah Choudhury but I'm not sure if the source I used is best source for it. But the NYPD is charging Salah Udin Choudhury for Grand Larceny via fraud since he's cheated on one of my friend and another female supporter. Complaints have also been made on March 25, 2011 to the Manhattan District Attorney. I'll add this with more source to come when the story appears on the media. Please forgive me if this is not reliable source and feel free to discuss with me about Salah Udin Choudhury --74.108.85.251 (talk) 19:13, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Unreliable sources are not allowed in biographies of living persons. Marokwitz (talk) 08:14, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Sources commented out of article

(Commenting this out because we generally don't keep big lists of external articles like this, but if someone wants to use them to improve the article, or incorporate them as citations, that would be great.)

• An Interview with Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury: Will America Act to Save One Courageous Man's Life?, The New York Sun, 10 November 2006
• Pro-Israeli editor beaten in Bangladesh by Michael Freund, The Jerusalem Post, 17 October 2006
• Interfaith Strength, website run by Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury and Dr. Richard L. Benkin
• Rendezvous With Israeli Peace Writer: Prof. Ada Aharoni by S. Choudhury, Weekly Blitz, reprinted by the International Forum for the Literature and Culture of Peace
• Benkin, R. L. (31 October 2006). "President Iajuddin Ahmed: Restore Faith in Bangladesh Justice, Drop Choudhury Case". Weekly Blitz.
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Disruptive edits

Thank you, NeverTry4Me, for making an effort at cleanup. Many of your edits have been helpful, but others veer towards "don't disrupt Wikipedia to make a point" territory.

• [13] removed two paragraphs with the vague explanation "- citation". The sourced content was merged here in this edit by an uninvolved editor as the result of consensus at this deletion discussion. It should not be removed unless consensus has changed.
• [14] removed content with the explanation "there is no American Jewish Committee and Wikipedia highlighted the link as 'not reliable'." On the contrary, there certainly is an American Jewish Committee (AJC). Do not act on highlights applied by script User:Headbomb/unreliable unless you understand what it is showing you. Context matters. A press release by AJC is not independent of AJC and naturally tends to be biased in favor of AJC. That doesn't mean it is unreliable for all things. Like other self-published sources, it can be a reliable source for information about their own publicly stated position. The text of the press release plainly supports the statement that the AJC "showed support for Choudhury and his ideals". You've removed this before and been reverted. Knock it off.
• [15] removed content with the explanation "citation to homepage that doesn't mention even, is not a citation at all". The citation was broken, but it took me less than two minutes to fix it. You've done something similar several times with other references here, and been reverted. If you can't repair a citation, tag it and leave it for an editor with greater resources or expertise.
• [16] is unfathomable. Your comment about the UNHCR has nothing to do with The Times of Israel. Perhaps you are just confused, but the edit is disruptive.

Before turning to cleanup, you twice tried to get this article deleted. No one agreed with you. From the above examples, it appears that your feelings about the subject may be strong, and you may be having difficulty being objective. I encourage you to take a break from this topic. You don't need to take sole responsibility for this article, and there are plenty of other articles in need of improvement that you could work on. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:56, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

salah uddin shoaib choudhury and Aug 21 Grenade Attack

Terrorist Aug 21 Grenade Attack, Sajalony (talk) 14:32, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

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