Talk:Sans (Undertale)/Archive 1

Archive 1

sources

Can we get a list of sources going? Otherwise we'll just add information that we won't be able to find a proper source for later.--Megaman en m (talk) 06:48, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Is anyone still willing to work on this article?--Megaman en m (talk) 17:11, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

User:Megaman en m User:MegaGoat I made an article with sources now and submitted :)

Thank you for working on the article, it's genuinely a great help. I corrected some of the grammar and trimmed a lot of unsourced or unnotable material. This article should be ready for publishing at this point I think. A lot of work can still be done on expanding the development and reception section. Some story elements still need to be removed/explained from an out-of-universe perspective (such as "judgment hall" or "genocide run".)--Megaman en m (talk) 09:28, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

I appreciate your copy edits thank you for that, Ive restored the mods and some of the character's apperances cuz it is still notable

Things left to add

This article is far from being publish-worthy. The bare minimum would that still needs to be added is a plot summary of what Sans does in Undertale and Deltarune along with a reception section. A development section would also be nice. Toriel is not perfect, but this article should come close to that in length and detail.--Megaman en m (talk) 08:24, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Except sans doesn't do much in deltarune chapter one except make an appearance.Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 16:11, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

In that case you'll only have to write one sentence on his appearance.--Megaman en m (talk) 17:10, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

There is already one about that ;( Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 17:47, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I didn't notice that somehow. Still, it would need more detailed information on what he does in Undertale.--Megaman en m (talk) 18:30, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand why we can no longer view the sans image, neither do I know how to fix images or even upload them. Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 17:38, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure what happened either, maybe the fair use wasn't specified?--Megaman en m (talk) 17:49, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Fangamer has created a 3D render figure of sans, or maybe we could use his appearance in SSBU as the costume. Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 15:38, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

He should definitely have an image that's most representative of his main appearances, which would be the overworld sprite from undertale/deltarune. In other words, the image which got mysteriously deleted. I guess someone should just reupload it and make sure that all the non-free content criteria is explained.--Megaman en m (talk) 16:25, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Another representative thing I can think of is his battle sprite with his blue eye, that would definitely make loads of fans happy. But the other problem is that you can't battle sans in deltarune. Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 16:46, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

I would stick with the overworld sprite, there is no need to use a sprite which only appears in one scene of the game.--Megaman en m (talk) 16:50, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

It appears twice, but I get your point. Mᴇɢᴀɢᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 16:55, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

I found this image, is it free to use? File:Sans Undertale.jpg MᴇɢᴀGᴏᴀᴛ (talk) 11:59, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

I've been working on a version of this article in my sandbox, I would like to know what could be changed. MegaGoat (talk) 17:53, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

Dang, I missed a lot of the development on this page over the weekend. MegaGoat (talk) 12:51, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

I want to get rid of the part where it says " around the same time, he also recieved his own amibo figure from nintendo" because nintendo does not authorize the custom amibo figure, but first I wanted some opinions. (if I can get some.) MegaGoat (talk) 17:54, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi all, I don't think it's fair to use fanmade content to flesh out the page. VentureSonic (talk) 19:16, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Also, I (and others) have been working on Sans page of my own although this page seems much more fleshed out and detailed. If you'd like to take portions from that page and append them here go ahead. VentureSonic (talk) 19:20, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

User:VentureSonic I already did on the plot, thanks for that, but Sometimes a fan made has RS, it is notable. the flush merchandise that you've placed on your draft was not rs unlike this one you'd removed btw :)

Apparently it is now an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.113.79.85 (talk) 00:03, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

The article could still add information about his appearance in official merchandise.--Megaman en m (talk) 11:00, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello! on the Deltarune description of Sans, I edited it to more accurately fit his appearance in the game. This way it isn't one vague sentence. I also edited somewhat awkward grammar and changed "Genocide Route" to "No mercy Route" (the preferred name for the route by Toby Fox) ––DeliSample (talk) 13:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Image needed

can some upload image of sans this one [1], thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.113.79.85 (talk) 00:08, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

You need to supply the url of the page that the image appears on, not the direct link to the gif. This is necessary for licensing purposes. --AussieLegend (✉) 00:18, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

User:AussieLegend here [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.113.79.85 (talk) 00:26, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

I found this file named File:Sans Undertale.jpg, maybe it could be added? MegaGoat (talk) 17:23, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

I'd prefer his default pose, but this is better than nothing, so I'd say add it for now.--Megaman en m (talk) 17:37, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

That was fun while it lasted. how about a pic from seekpng? is their DMCA notice enough for wikipeida? Hydromania (talk) 09:31, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

School computers blocked both websites, I can't make the call. MegaGoat (talk) 11:40, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

I've uploaded a correctly sourced image per requests. -Liance^{talk/contribs} 18:44, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

title changed without consensus

the title should be changed back into Sans (Undertale) not this current one, as there will might be more sans on video game in the future. 222.112.112.75 (talk) 07:01, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

If there are going to be other games with Sans in them (like Deltarune), that's all the more reason not to put 'Undertale' in the article's title.--Megaman en m (talk) 09:40, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 9 July 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 21:53, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

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Sans (character) → Sans (Undertale) – Fictional elements are disambiguated by work or franchise of origin. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:59, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

• Support per nominator. JIP | Talk 19:02, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2021

Can someone add this on reception section. TheGamer included Sans on their "Iconic Video Game Characters", stating that "In Undertale, you explore a land of unique characters and villains that quickly will grab your attention." 126.60.255.230 (talk) 02:54, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. We have plenty of quotes from more reliable/recognizable sources that say basically the same thing. Also, your quote has very little to do with Sans himself. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 04:36, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

References

Tumblr "Sexyman" Poll

Although quite funny honestly, I don't think it should be mentioned here. I'm not sure if a Twitter poll about a Tumblr "Sexyman" would be notable or of encyclopedic value here, it really feels like WP:GAMECRUFT sadly. Viewers who have no idea what UNDERTALE, DELTARUNE, or sans is would probably be totally confused as to why this is such an achievement. Sparkl^talk 13:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

@Sparkl: I agree. Not only is Tumblr basically dying but I"ve never even heard of this. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 13:29, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2022

Sans is not simply a brief cameo in Deltarune, but a full character/npc! EditorPedia94 (talk) 15:36, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

The Significance of Sans Smash Bros Appearence

There should be a sentence or two outlining just how outrageous it is that Sans is in Smash. It deserves more than a passing mention.

Certainly more than the fact that he...won a tumblr poll...about "sexymen".

Maybe it's time to unlock this article at let real scholars on the character do some work? It's 2023. Nobody is crazy about sans anymore. 2600:8801:1389:9800:7F62:7628:BD5E:A61 (talk) 16:08, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

You'd be surprised how many people are still crazy about Sans. Also, "real scholars" usually aren't interested in a video game character. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 16:12, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Moving to Sans (Toby Fox)

Why isn't Sans (Toby Fox) a print worthy title? Faster than Thunder (talk) 22:31, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

What's wrong with Sans (Undertale)? If we are disambiguating fictional characters in titles, we typically parenthesize the show or series they are from, not the name of the creator. See Spike_(character) for some examples. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:12, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Can we use Sans (Undertale/Deltarune)? Faster than Thunder (talk) 23:25, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

The current name is fine. Why would we change the name based on a brief appearance in another game? Also see the move discussion above where the current name was proposed. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:26, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

The typical naming convention for characters appearing in multiple games would be Sans (character), although I don't think he has yet had a major enough role in Deltarune to merit this (at least, yet). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:50, 29 May 2023 (UTC)