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More material, professional and personal[edit]

Do a Google-search on his name [Satya Nadella] for 137million hits. The most popular are:

  • Time magizine: "Microsoft's Satya Nadella Seen as 'Safe' CEO Choice" [1]
  • PCWorld(blog) "Report: Satya Nadella to be named Microsoft CEO; Gates out, too" [2]
  • Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Satya Nadella

On the right is his picture and this: "Satya Nadella is the executive vice president of Microsoft’s Cloud and Enterprise group, responsible for building and running the company’s computing platforms, developer tools and cloud services. – Wikipedia" — FYI, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 17:24, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Manipal or Mangalore?[edit]

This article says his EE degree is from Mangalore University. Sumana Harihareswara 15:38, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

It seems according to Mangalore_University#History that there was some transfer of Mangalore University colleges: " In 1993, the Manipal associated colleges were transferred to Manipal University." Maybe that's the reason? We should probably go with what Microsoft and BBC say as "Mangalore University" -- Fuzheado | Talk 18:22, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Munipal Institute of Technology was affiliated to Mangalore University before it became a deemed university in 1993 and he graduated before that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.55.54.40 (talk) 21:53, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

(His digree is in Electrical and Electronics engineering. That time Manipal Institute of technology was affiliated to Mangalore University. - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Satya_Nadella&diff=next&oldid=594015481 - comment by 117.198.108.213 moved out of my comment earlier where the IP user mistakenly placed it.) Sumana Harihareswara 10:04, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2014[edit]

"Please change Nadella was born in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India in a Telugu Brahmin family to Nadella was born in Bukkapuram Village Yellanur Mandal of Ananthapur District , Andhra Pradesh, India in a Telugu Kamma family because it is an error as per sources below"

Sources: http://www.eenadu.net/Homeinner.aspx?item=break27 http://kammasworld.blogspot.com/2014/02/satyanarayana-chowdary-nadella.html Simplehelp79 (talk) 03:15, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Blogspots cannot be accepted as valid sources and the other source is not in english, are there any other sources which show this information ?

While in the article there is atleast one english news article (APherald) which supports the current information on the article. Please provide better sources and also explain why the sources already present are wrong ?
Marchoctober (talk) 03:19, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

AP Herald is a dubious tabloid website and has no authenticity while eenadu is the largest circulated Telugu daily newspaper in the entire world. Not even a close contest. Highly recommend adding the eenadu reference 38 to the Telugu Family word in the early life. Pray tell us Marchoctober as to what is the overwhelming evidence that Nadella is a Brahmin.

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2014[edit]

Needless Controversy over Manipal Institute of Technology and Mangalore University. From 1980 to 2000 , ( the time period when Satya Nadella Graduated from manipal Institute of Technology ) , this institute was part of Mangalore University. For Citations refer to the wiki article on Manipal Institte of technology. [1] Section : growth and expansion.

68.63.253.87 (talk) 03:19, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Satya Nadella is from Bukkapuram a small village. this is in Yellanur Mandal, Ananthapuramu district in Andhra Pradesh,india — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.216.190.155 (talk) 16:16, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2014[edit]

Satya Nadella Belongs to a Telugu Kamma Family Not a Telugu Brahmin Please dont misguide people Abhilash Namini (talk) 04:21, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

There are overwhelming sources saying him as brahmin, please make note that blogspots cannot be accepted as sources to claim him as kamma. Marchoctober (talk) 05:55, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

The largest circulated Telugu news daily in the entire world is Eenadu and it strongly provides a justification that Nadella was NOT born in a Brahmin family. Pray tell us Matchoctober as to what is the overwhelming evidence that Nadella is a Brahmin.

Also note Sakshi, the 2nd largest circulated Telugu daily newspaper link: http://www.sakshi.com/news/andhra-pradesh/the-decision-by-the-software-giant-microsoft-chairman-103078

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Prasadktn (talkcontribs) 12:36, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2014[edit]

The following sentence is wrong. B. N. Yugandhar, hailing from Krishna District of Andhra Pradesh, India. Also the following thing: Home town Anantapur District, Andhra Pradesh, India.[3]

Here is the correct sentence: B. N. Yugandhar, hailing from Anantapur District of Andhra Pradesh, India. Home town Anantapur District, Andhra Pradesh, India.

Here is the proof and explanation:

Satya Nadella's father, B.N. Yugandhar hails from 'Bukkapuram village in Yellanur Mandal of Anantapur District, Rayala Seema Region, Andhra Pradesh state, India

All vernacular (Telugu) media (Eenadu, Andhra Jyothy, Sakshi) published these details in their newspapers on Feb 05th, 2014.

Link from Sakshi Telugu Newspaper: http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/Hyderabad-Main_Edition/05022014/13 Link from Andhra Jyothy Telugu Newspaper: http://amzjyothyach.pressmart.com/PUBLICATIONS/AJ/AJYOTHY/2014/02/05/ArticleHtmls/05022014004023.shtml?Mode=1 Link from Eenadu Telugu Newspaper: http://www.eenadu.net/district/inner.aspx?dsname=Anantapur&info=atp-k3

Rajanvreddy (talk) 03:32, 6 February 2014 (UTC) Raja Reddy

Please change as said by someone else that Satya Nadella home town is not Krishna District. His native place is Anantapur district. Born in Hyderabad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.20.232.11 (talk) 05:00, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2014[edit]

Please remove the Marathi translation of the name, since that is not his native language. Tenugu001 (talk) 06:01, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done by User:Dav subrajathan.357. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 06:24, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2014[edit]

Please change the Home town of Satya Nadella from Krishna Dist, Andhra Pradesh to Bukkarpuram, Anantapur diet, Andhra Pradesh. Kiranrrr (talk) 08:13, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2014[edit]

B. N. Yugandhar,Satya Nadella's father is from Anantapur Dist in Andhra Pradesh. He is not from Krishna District. 14.141.35.202 (talk) 10:37, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

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Citizenship[edit]

Nadella is listed as an American citizen (which is correct, of course), but it seems unlikely to me that he'd have given up his Indian citizenship. He was in his twenties before coming to the USA, after all. Is there evidence that he's not both an American citizen and an Indian citizen? James Montgomerie (talk) 11:27, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Indians can't hold dual citizenship under The Citizenship Act, 1955. If he is an American citizen, he better not be Indian too. Or else someone should notify this to Preet Bharara Face-tongue.svg §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 13:12, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

His mother and father[edit]

Currently the article states, "Nadella was born in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India, in a Telugu family to an IAS officer, B. N. Yugandhar, from Bukkapuram village in Anantapur District, Andhra Pradesh. who was a member of the Planning Commission during 2004–2009 under Prime Minister Manmohan Singh."

1. Is it normal for English Wikipedia that a person is born "to" the father, and with no mention of the mother? RenniePet (talk) 06:21, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

@RenniePet: Sometimes this happens when one parent is a public person, but the other is not in public life. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 16:23, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

2. Are the father's later exploits, long after Mr. Nadella had moved to the USA, really relevant? I'd suggest simply removing the phrase "who was a member of the Planning Commission during 2004–2009 under Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.". Or at least make it a separate sentence in parenthesis - except that Wikipedia style discourages use of parenthesis, right? RenniePet (talk) 06:21, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2014[edit]

{{Edit semi-protected||answered=yes} Home town = Bukkapuram VIllage,Anantapur District,Andhra Pradesh, India. 76.180.42.154 (talk) 15:46, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Citation on that specific location? Zero Serenity (talk) 16:15, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
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India born[edit]

An editor recently reverted my edit "India-born, naturalized American" in the lead, with edit summary "not essential for notability" or words to that effect. This mention of country of birth, is in fact par for the lead. See Saul Bellow (who left Quebec for Chicago at age nine), Albert Einstein (who renounced his German citizenship at age 17), V. S. Naipaul (who left Trinidad at age 17). In Nadella's case, his American citizenship (which is mentioned in the lead, and less relevant to his notability than his previous Indian-) is relatively recent. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 01:49, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Current WP:Manual of Style/Biographies disagrees "Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability". Other articles do not set a precedent (WP:Other stuff exists). His birth location is totally irrelevant to his notability. Nationality is explicitly listed as part of the basic description. Birth info is in the adjacent infobox and well described in article. Birth location does not belong in first paragraph of the lede. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:22, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Even if I were to take the MOS, written by your average amateur Wikipedian and subject to constant change, as etched in stone, why is Nadella's Indian citizenship not relevant to his notability. How did you divine that? It is not his birth location, but the 22 years he spent in India getting educated at an Indian elementary, middle- and high school, then at a government subsidized university, then another five years as an Indian student in the US, and another ten years as an Indian citizen working in the US with an H1 visa, and subsequently with a Green card before he became a US citizen. So, all in all, approximately 37 years of his 45 or 46 years have been spent as an Indian citizen. Again, how have you divined that those years are not relevant to his notability. After all, had he not become a US citizen (i.e. remained a permanent resident) MOS, if taken as gospel truth, would have compelled us to write, "Satya Nadella is an Indian software engineer, ...," with no mention of the US, thereby somehow implying the his US years are not relevant to his notability. I am suggesting that the folks at MOS have not thought deeply about this issue, and they can safely be ignored. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:42, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
This particular part of the MOS has been there since October 2009 [3] after a discussion (aka people thought deeply about this issue) and the intent, if not the exact wording, has been stable since then. Previous to that birth location was normally there, after that point, not. The change in the example in the MOS when the edit was made makes the intent explicitly clear and well-covers this exact same issue.
This article was created January 13, 2013 and as it was not deleted at that time presume it met basic notability requirements for a wikipedia article. He had no notable activities until he became a senior executive of Microsoft. He was an American national at that point in time. He had activities, but no notable activities as an Indian national, no different than any other random software engineer, mid level executive working for a large company. What he did before he became notable belongs in a well-writen bio article but would not in of themselves be sufficient to support one. Saying in the first sentence, where he was born and that he was naturalized as opposed to native born has nothing to do with the reason he is notable now. If he had not gained American citizenship, then yes, he would be described as an Indian business executive. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:41, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Here is the sum total of that discussion. There is no consensus at all. In fact, an editor Sssoul says in this edit, "i don't think any 'one size fits all' type solution will be adequate to deal with this - there are times when the country of birth is relevant and times when it isn't; and when it's 'relevant enough' to be mentioned in the lead varies. it needs to be sorted out on an individual basis, by the editors of the idividual articles - not through edit-warring, but not by introducing blanket MoS rulings either."
I looked at your MOS:Biography link as well. The most recent edit there has edit summary, "not consistent with general encyclopedic practice." Well, I'm suggesting this bit of MOS is not always consistent with general encyclopedic practice. Usually, when someone has been born, raised, achieved adulthood, and the age of consent, in one country, and has then emigrated to another, their native country is mentioned in the lead. The first 21 years shape the life. Examples abound in other encyclopedias as well. Here are some comparable biographies (in terms of the age at which the subject arrived in the country of second citizenship and their non-notability at the time of arrival; actually many subjects were younger than Nadella at the age of migration.)
  • Cary Grant's Wikipedia page says, "Cary Grant (born Archibald Alexander Leach; January 18, 1904 – November 29, 1986) was an English stage and Hollywood film actor who became an American citizen in 1942." (CG moved to the US in 1920, aged 16; became a US citizen at age 38.)
  • Cary Grant's Britannica page says, "Cary Grant, original name Archibald Alexander Leach (born January 18, 1904, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England—died November 29, 1986, Davenport, Iowa, U.S.), British-born American film actor whose good looks, debonair style, and flair for romantic comedy made him one of Hollywood’s most popular and enduring stars."
  • Mel Gibson's Britannica page says, "Mel Gibson, in full Mel Columcille Gerard Gibson (born January 3, 1956, Peekskill, New York, U.S.), American-born Australian actor, who became an international star with a series of action-adventure films in the 1980s and later earned acclaim as a director and producer. (MG's family moved to Australia when he was 12.)
  • Arnold Schwarzeneger's Wikipedia page says, "Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger (born July 30, 1947) is an Austrian-born American actor, film producer, businessman, investor, writer, philanthropist, former professional bodybuilder and politician. Schwarzenegger served two terms as the 38th Governor of California from 2003 until 2011.page
  • Arnold Schwarzenegger's Britannica page says, "Arnold Schwarzenegger, in full Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger (born July 30, 1947, Thal, near Graz, Austria), Austrian-born American bodybuilder, film actor, and politician who rose to fame through roles in blockbuster action movies and later served as governor of California (2003–11)." (AS came to the US at age 21. He had won his first Mr Universe, though, and had a little notability).
  • Indra Nooyi's Britannica page says, "Indra Nooyi, (born Oct. 28, 1955, Madras [now Chennai], India), Indian-born American businesswoman who was instrumental in the lucrative restructuring and diversification of soft-drink manufacturer PepsiCo, Inc.’s brands. Nooyi became CEO of PepsiCo in 2006 and chairman of the board in 2007."
  • Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhas's Britannica page says, "Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, (born October 19, 1910, Lahore, India [now in Pakistan]—died August 21, 1995, Chicago, Illinois, U.S.), Indian-born American astrophysicist who, with William A. Fowler, won the 1983 Nobel Prize for Physics for key discoveries that led to the currently accepted theory on the later evolutionary stages of massive stars." Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:12, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I will, btw, soon reopen that discussion on the MOS:Biography talk page. I want to first examine some other pages. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 00:06, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Since this seems to be a much bigger issue in India-related biographies, i.e. there is a relatively large number of Indians who have moved to the US or Britain after their basic college education in India, and in some cases later in life, I will post in WT:INDIA first. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:09, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Don't try to argue with anyone in any Microsoft related pages, despite the fact that "Other stuff exist" actually does work on any other type of page, those arguments to the admins of these pages will only befal deaf ears. --Lumia930uploader (talk) 08:33, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Nothing about S.N's performance as the CEO of Microsoft yet?[edit]

Hi I noticed that even though it's been over 6 months since Satya Nadella became the CEO there's nothing here about how he is doing (professionally ofc) in his capacity. Have there been no notable comments about this in reliable sources (e.g analyses of his decisions, etc) yet? 83.8.238.36 (talk) 12:04, 27 September 2014 (UTC)Piotrek

CEO section needs expansion/rewrite[edit]

In my opinion, the CEO of Microsoft section of this article needs a re-write. He's been on the job for 8 months. I visited this article to read up on the types of changes Satya Nadella is making to Microsoft, what his leadership vision is, what investors think of his strategy, and what direction the company is going in. Instead I get 5 paragraphs of feminism and 0 paragraphs about what he is actually doing at the company. I would suggest reducing the feminism down to 1-2 paragraphs, then adding 3+ paragraphs about the actions that Nadella is taking as CEO. What is his vision for Windows 10? What acquisitions has Microsoft made under his leadership (Nokia, Minecraft, etc.)? Is Microsoft going to continue on this tablet-centric path that Ballmer embarked them on or is Nadella steering them back toward the traditional PC market? – Novem Lingvae (talk) 19:39, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Official Facebook Page[edit]

Can we confirm already that this is Satya Nadella's Official Facebook Page?

https://www.facebook.com/NadellaSatya StandNThrow (talk) 13:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

It might be, but for the most part unless it has that blue checkmark it is best to err with caution. For me, I think it is run by public relations, not Satya himself. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 17:22, 25 January 2015 (UTC)