Talk:Steven Tyler/Archive 1

Archive 1

Sexiest man alive?

That was news to me... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.119.41.16 (talk) 23:16, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Picture?

Come on guys, a picture from 2003? How about an update? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtpck32 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Steven and Joe's Bar

what is the name of steven and joe's bar in boston?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.98.231.228 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 3 September 2004 (UTC)

It is a restaurant. It's at 701 Main St, Norwell, MA.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.136 (talk • contribs) 13:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

The bar in Boston is called Mama Kin after a track from Aerosmith's first album.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Awolcfh5150 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Hello Kitty

The article on Hello Kitty mentions that Tyler has contributed to the popularity of H.K. Is this some form of vandalism or true? Seems odd but who knows...? Dismas 07:00, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Seems like vandalism...What was specifically said? Michael 04:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

He was shown in a magazine article holding Hello Kitty Merchandise which "contributed to its popularity in America." article --72.58.105.35 17:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Break-up?

according to an ET interview not so long ago, apparently Steven broke up with Erin.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.62.238 (talk • contribs) 04:44, 20 October 2006 (URC)

When was this interview? They seemed to have been together all the time!70.108.49.18 07:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Sex symbol

Just professing my love for Steven.... oh Steven, one day, you will be mine.. hehe. But seriously speaking, how bout some mention of Steven's sex symbol image in the article, because I think that's a significant part of what Aerosmith was. The groupies and whatnot hehe.. if a source is necessary, here's some: Boston Magazine: Steven Tyler, and Metal Express Radiohere's a quote from the second article: "Mike Grant reminded me of a young Steve Tyler with all the swagger and stage presence that made Tyler a sex symbol". I just think it might add something to the article to mention that he's widely seen as a sex symbol. Stop The Lies 11:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

have you seen the current issus of SI, its the swimsuit ed. and st's in there... 24.154.199.103 21:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Steve Tyler's family

Anyone know what Tylers parents names were? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.101.54.166 (talk) 18:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

Victor Tallarico & Susan Blancha

They are Victor Tallarico & Susan Blancha, alive and well, kid U not, they R old but still walkin this earth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.247.0.193 (talk) 12:20, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Actually, an update, Victor Tallarico passed away on September 10, 2011 at the age of 95. The article indicates also that he was predeceased by his wife of 63 years (Susan). Article at http://bostonherald.com/news/obituaries/view/2011_0914victor_a_tallaricomusician_father_of_steven_tyler_95 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.164.18 (talk) 00:32, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

On Polish TV Steve said that his Grandfather's name (who he claims was Ukrainian) was Czarnyszewicz (pronounced: Charneeshevich). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.83.32.14 (talk) 16:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

According to a website Steven's grandfather was called Giovanni Tallarico. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.27.26.57 (talk) 19:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

In many sources it is written that at it Russian descent instead of Ukrainian. So at he Russian or Ukrainian?!http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0878911/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.180.19.16 (talk) 18:00, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Religious affiliation

Ok, I was wondering about what religion he considers himself. I'd think Christian due to songs on Honkin' on Bobo, but not sure. IronCrow 03:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

it used to say roman catholic on this page, but it has since been removed. i'm guessing some sort of christianity, due to a lot of the content he puts in his song lyrics 24.154.199.103 21:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

It would seem that way - here he is singing amazing grace[1]. It seems to me to be worth a mention, and I came here to read about it, due to the contrast with the 'toxic' 'demon' image. --Timtak 01:08, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree, probably some sort of Christianity. He said "God Bless You" at the concert last night, anyway. 89.100.46.70 18:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

He mentions the "Good Lord" in Dream On, and frequently references angels in songs (Angel and Amazing). I would guess he believes in God, or else he (like Zorostrian Freddy Mercury) just mentions God in songs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 20:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Original research? What?

What's with the original research tag? Please elaborate what you believe to be original research. Pretty much everything in this article can be verified by reading Aerosmith's autobiography Walk This Way or by not living under a rock the past few years. Abog 08:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Removed section

I removed the following section per WP:BLP. Feel free to add it back if you can cite a reliable source.

In an interview with Access Hollywood, Steve Tyler revealed that he had been suffering from Hepatitis C for the past 10 years. He had undergone extensive treatment in the last three years, including 11 months of interferon therapy, which he said was "agony". ShadowHalo 09:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Here [2] --Azslande 03:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Conflicting info

Just noticed a conflict:

Under Career, "Steven is now happily married his wife Tiffany Vivienne." And under Personal Life -> Relationships "Tyler is currently dating Erin Brady."

Which is it? The latter comment has two references, and I would suggest even if the (unreferenced) former is more current information it is in the wrong section. Feyrauth (talk) 04:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

First entry was a recent addition by an unregistered wikipedian. Google search results in no significant hits for the name "Tiffany Vivienne". Reverted due to suspected vandalism. Feyrauth (talk) 05:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Erin Brady & assault

There seems to be a conflict emerging over whether Erin Brady's assault belongs in this article or not. I don't believe it does, but I really couldn't care one way or the other as long as there's consensus. It keeps being removed and re-added, with the formatting getting mangled every time. I'm going to go ahead and remove this bit and the broken ref tag that came with it, but I'm not going to keep reverting it unless consensus requests that we do such. Fogster (talk) 20:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree that this little tidbit about Erin Brady does not belong in a Steven Tyler Wikipedia article. Tyler has dated/married several women in the past and to document, in detail, all of their little eccentricities would be absolutely ridiculous. All that really needs to be mentioned is who he dated and when, which ones he married, and which ones he fathered children with. If this was an article about Erin Brady, this gossip tidbit about her assaulting someone might warrant inclusion, but since it's not, then it does not belong in an article about Steven Tyler.

Steven Tyler, particularly his personal life, is a frequent target of vandalism on Wikipedia, and since these edits are being done by an unregistered user, I will continue to treat as such, and revert it everytime. Abog (talk) 20:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Recent clinic check-in

Its mentioned three times. Someone want to decide what the best reference and placement is? (John User:Jwy talk) 05:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I just added this link, might help support the fact.suntimes.com, Spike doing the MJ thing --Florentino floro (talk) 10:11, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I am more concerned that the same item is mentioned in three different places. One would be better. I could choose but thought I would throw it out to those that are more fish into it. (John User:Jwy talk) 16:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

He was at the Clinic to be a Sponsor for several celebrity addicts, he is forbidden from making a public statement due to the Confidentiality Agreement with the VH1 TV Show being filmed. The closest validation you can get on this is an interveiw he had at the MAP awards a couple weeks ago, where he stated he would be making himself available to several people 24/7 to help them, and where ever he was, he would stop what he was doing to help them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.93.158 (talk) 12:16, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

né/née

In the references, it says "Steven Tyler nee Tallarico" Née is french for "born" if you are a girl. It's used sometimes in English to show the maiden name of females. It's overused in wikipedia in my opinion, by those who think it means "whose name used to be". Presumably these are the same people who think "circa" means "the exact year of". ;) If anything it should be né, with one e and an accent aigu, which is the masculine version. I tried to change it but it wasn't showing for me on the edit page for the fish. ~bing né boing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.134.216 (talk) 01:46, 23 may 2011 (UTC)

Taj Monroe

According to California fish records, Taj was born Jan 30, 1992.

Source: http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/calbirths?c=search&first=TAJ&last=TALLARICO&spelling=Exact&4_year=&4_month=0&4_day=0&5=&7=&SubmitSearch.x=0&SubmitSearch.y=0 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.229.6.70 (talk) 01:12, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Virginity

I was reading a interview on contactmusic.com and steven said who he lost his virginity to and what age he lost it. Would I get in HUGE trouble if I put it? the link to it:

http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/tyler.s%20first%20time%20nightmare —Preceding unsigned comment added by 08wwe (talk • contribs) 01:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Where was he born?

In the first paragraph it is stated that he was born in Yonkers. In "early life" it is stated that he was born in New York, New York (Manhattan). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Albatross48 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering that myself, on the sidebar it also says he was born in Lake Sunapee.--Scope000 (talk) 15:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Steven Tyler grew up in Sunapee, New Hampshire. All these New Hampshire superstars (Triple H, Adam Sandler, Godsmack, Aerosmith, etc etc) say they were born and raised somewhere else. My dad went to school with Steven at Sunapee High School. Yes, he had a house on Lake Sunapee... which might be where they says "Lake Sunapee." (talk) 12:00 AM, 27, August 2009 (EST)

The question is where he was born, not where he grew up. I agree, the first sentence is completely contradicted by the "Early life" section. Was he actually born in NYC or Yonkers? Also, New York, NY is not necessarily Manhattan. All 5 boroughs are part of New York, NY. 162.136.193.1 (talk) 17:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Jewish?

I notice that the "American Jews" category has been added, though there is no mention of this anywhere in the rest of the article. I have searched Google to try to source a reliable reference to this claim, but so far in vain. As there seems to be little or no evidence of Tyler's 'Jewishness' in the public domain (at least on the internet)I'm assuming whoever added this has made a calculated guess based on his mother's Russian heritage and his birth place in Yonkers, New York (both historically tied to Jewish immigration to the US, if I recall correctly). I'm going to remove the offending category. If anyone can prove he really is Jewish, by all means add it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.11.14 (talk) 22:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Multi-instrumentalist

A good section to be added would be about Steven being a multi-instumentalist. Information should include what was the first instrument he learned, his favorite instrument to play, and his least favorite. Rock'N'More (talk) 23:37, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Steven Tyler is NOT dead

Home page for Steven Tyler says he died on 07/29/2010? 12.157.227.27 (talk) 17:26, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Formation and success of Aerosmith section

The first paragraph of the Formation and success of Aerosmith section doesn't make any sense:

In 1965, Tyler wrote "Dream On". In 1969, Tyler attended a local rock show in Sunapee, Around 1971, the band moved to Boston, Massachusetts and shared a small apartment on Commonwealth Avenue in Brighton. A former mate of Tyler's from New York, Joey Kramer, was recruited to play drums and later, they added a rhythm guitarist: Brad Whitford, who replaced Tyler's boyhood friend Ray Tabano.

He wrote a song and attended a rock show? Okay, so what? How did his writing of a song help form the band? Then he moved to Boston. Okay, so what? What does THAT have to do with the formation of the band? He shared a small apartment with who? Why is that important? Then, all of a sudden, Joey Kramer is playing drums. But for who? There's no mention of a band yet! Then "they" added a rhythm guitarist. WHO did? There's still no mention of a band yet.

Normally I'd attempt to fix something like this, but I don't know enough about the subject matter to even attempt it. It really looks like there was deletion vandalism between "in Sunapee," and "Around 1971," (notice peculiar capitalization of "Around" in the middle of a sentence). I looked in the history, though, and couldn't find any. Maybe someone else will have better luck, or can rewrite the paragraph to help it make sense. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 11:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay, nevermind. I couldn't let it sit. I did find an earlier version of the paragraph, and I was right. Someone came along and deleted a whole section that prevented it from making any sense. I don't know if the version I restored was the absolute latest version of the paragraph, but it's a whole lot better than it was. Cheers. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 11:54, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Article contradicts itself on birthplace

The infobox says Yonkers, the article says Scarsdale. They are two very different places in Westchester County. Neither has a cite. WP:BLP says unverified information can be removed immediately, but would someone like to provide cites first? I'm at work, using Wikipedia to find a footnote source to check something on Tyler, and can't take the time to confirm his birthplace myself just now.--Tenebrae (talk) 22:04, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

STEVE Tyler

He's "better known as" STEVE Tyler not STEVEN Tyler... -93.97.255.48 (talk) 21:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

No, no he isn't. He's always referred to as steven tyler, just not stephen tyler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.201.111.155 (talk) 03:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Recent events

Isn't "Recent Events" supposed to be more of a career-defining collection of events that are not otherwise described in a historical outlet? All that's being presented here is a date-by-date diary of what TV shows Steven is appearing on. He hosts American Idol. He's releasing a book. That should be about it. "Kids Choice Award"? That's a blog post and doesn't belong here. {Redrkr (talk) 04:32, 5 April 2011 (UTC)}

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Extended Family

I can actually say that I am connected to Steven Tylers family. His uncle Ernie was married to my sister in law Antoinette (Toni) who unfortunetly passed away 10 years ago. I only met her and Ernie once when my husband and I went to visit them in NY just prior to her passing. I had seen the gold albums encased on the wall in the room of their house which was amazing. I have always loved Aerosmith and to be connected to amazing legend is a story I can hold on to. My daughter is always asking if we could see Steven, maybe someday I tell her. I wish..It really is a small world after all. Patricia DiCamillo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.98.88.24 (talk) 11:27, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Birth date

Is it the 22nd as in the text or the 26th as in the info box? Neither has a source. --Ainali (talk) 20:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Sicilian or Italian?

Tommy Tallarico is Steven's cous in mind of herin and he is catagorized in the Sicilian-American part... would Steven also? - Deathrocker 17:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

WTF? Sicily is an Italian island. So Sicilian would be also Italian, I think. 85.217.21.121 (talk) 16:40, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Mick Jagger

In whole article, there's no mention regarding Mick Jagger, i think there should be. Clarificationgiven (talk) 11:27, 30 June 2012 (UTC) ...and why should there be? 65.219.192.66 (talk) 12:18, 2 August 2012 (UTC)ed

Tyler vs Tallaricco

No mention of why he changed his name? 65.219.192.66 (talk) 12:17, 2 August 2012 (UTC)ed

Birth year wrong

Born in 1748? Really? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.119.88.109 (talk) 01:46, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism happens. Shearonink (talk) 02:38, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Early Life

Birthname = Tallarico, therefore Father's last name is the same. Father's Last Name = Tallarico, therefore Grandfather's last name = Tallarico.

Paragraph currently states "His Grandfather... ...last name was changed..." is not very clear. Revising. Richard416282 (talk) 19:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Photos

We have many more good photos here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Steven_Tyler

I noticed them when I came across this suspicious edit, which removed a bunch of photos, with no explanation. I wss going to put File:Steventyler aerosmith anandbhatt.jpg back but noticed that it looks like we have better ones. A cropped File:Aerosmith 4.jpg], perhaps File:Steven Tyler performing.jpg too? ⋅--Elvey^(t•c) 22:01, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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Instruments

Under his listed instruments is only 'vocals', but he is clearly semi-accomplished on the keys (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaQRckJp58c), should piano not be added? Speeverson (talk) 02:05, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

I agree. He also plays mellotron on "Dream On", which is basically the same. So I think his piano skills should be noted. U2kheim (talk) 11:42, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Harmonica

He played a lot of harmonica during his career and should be listed as an instrument. AdamBendelow (talk) 22:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Stefano vs Steven

According to newspapers in Italy reporting a visti of Steve Tyler in his granfather village in Calabria , appears his name to be STEFANO not Steven.

His grandfather Giovanni Tallarico, Steven grandfather, leaves from the province of Crotone , a village name Cotronei along with three brothers. They arrive in the te United States. It is the late nineteenth century and Giovanni is a young musician in search of fortune. Once in America he get married and transmits his musical passion to his son Vittorio, which creates a small band and become a piano teacher. Vittorio Tallarico is father to Steven/Stefano Tallarico. And Tyler in the article uses the name of Stefano- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melchisedech (talk • contribs) 15:36, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Steven Tyler lived at 5610 Netherland Avenue, Bronx NY in Riverdale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1tAoRujaWo&t=2m32s  Mentioned on Late Night with Seth Meyers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.228.147.50 (talk) 12:28, 25 October 2020 (UTC) 

Major sourcing issues

The part of the article covering the period from 1970 to 2000 in Tyler's career consists of 14 paragraphs of text, some of them quite lengthy and dense. Those 14 paragraphs contain 3 footnotes. Just saying. Amandil21 (talk) 06:10, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Holcomb - balance needed

The bit on Julia Holcomb seems designed to exculpate Tyler. Here it says she became his ward to avoid him being arrested as he crossed state lines. She also says he pressured her into the abortion. We need some balance. Malick78 (talk) 08:53, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Grandfather, Felix Blancha

This edit contradicts the sources on which the statement is based. Before the edit, the Polish nationality of Tyler's grandfather was indicated, and the source details that his grandfather regarded himself as Polish (On the ship's manifest, Felix claimed Bobruysk as his hometown. Bobruysk is now in Belarus, but his paper trail clearly indicates that he regarded himself as Polish ). So that edit, as well as its summary, is completely misleading, and does not fit the information from the source. --5.167.164.57 (talk) 08:02, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Category:American people of Ukrainian descent

Please put him in that category, if appropriate. Thank you. 89.8.123.162 (talk) 20:36, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2022

change Tyler collapses in Springfield Il. 1984. to July 1984 Band brawls in Springfield, Illinois - Tyler falls off stage.

2603:300A:1F04:2A00:CC4D:2754:250B:A16F (talk) 05:43, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:06, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2022

Tyler is the paternal cousin of Tommy Tallarico, co-creator of the concert series Video Games Live. DarkHorseNine (talk) 22:13, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Actualcpscm (talk) 17:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2022

Change:

Tommy Tallarico, the co-creator of the concert series Video Games Live, claims to be Tyler's cousin.

To:

Tyler is the cousin of Tommy Tallarico, co-creator of the concert series Video Games Live. DarkHorseNine (talk) 22:14, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

 Done Along with a more reliable Los Angeles Times cite. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 14:10, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

The source of both citations are still basing this info entirely on claims made by Tommy Tallarico. We need another source as well, such as a claim made by Steven Tyler. If both parties agree to it, then it is far less likely to be in error. Thereaverofdarkness (talk) 07:56, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

References

Julia Holcomb Lawsuit

Julia Holcomb, who is mentioned in the article in the "Family and relationships" section, has filed a lawsuit against Steven Tyler accusing him of sexual abuse. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/steven-tyler-sexual-assault-minor-lawsuit-1234653817/ 2607:FEA8:A980:3390:6D05:89F6:D748:3AC9 (talk) 04:16, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2023

add tommy tallarico to relatives there are claims that steven tyler is cousins with tommy tallarico with it being mentioned in interviews with tommy. Fxsh05 (talk) 20:38, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lemonaka (talk) 01:17, 20 January 2023 (UTC)