Talk:Studio One (Emirati TV program)

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Requested move 23 February 2018

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The result of the move request was: move the page to Studio One (UAE talk show), per the discussion below. Studio One (Dubai TV series) has been created as a redirect. Dekimasuよ! 02:40, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Studio One (TV show) → Studio One (Dubai TV series) – The form "(Dubai TV series)" would be analogous to "(U.S. TV series)", used in Studio One (U.S. TV series), which would be otherwise structured as simply Studio One (TV series). —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 00:55, 23 February 2018 (UTC)--Relisting. samee ^talk 06:10, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and suggest Studio One (UAE talk show) - per WP:NCTV, we use country in disambiguation, not cities, and for talk shows we use (talk show). (TV series) is reserved for shows with a episodic/narrative structure. -- Netoholic @ 05:27, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that in addition to being a city, Dubai is also a semi-independent political entity known as an emirate, which also means "principality", with all the trappings of a sovereign state in regard to domestic matters, including media. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 09:09, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Netoholic: move to Studio One (UAE talk show). Note that the TV program does not appear to be a "TV series" (with continuing storylines), but is a lifestyle/talk show, so "TV series" is the wrong disambiguator... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 01:51, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 3 November 2018

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Moved. CONSISTENCY policy rationales below pitted against the RECOGNIZABLE policy argument – tough call; however, since the "E" in UAE is for "Emirates", which is closely similar to "Emirati", the supporters have shown a stronger reason to use the latter as a better title qualifier. Have a Great Day and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover) Paine Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there 16:16, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Studio One (UAE TV program) → Studio One (Emirati TV program) – Per WP:NCTV we use the list at List of adjectival and demonymic forms for countries and nations as the guideline for the correct country adjectivals, both to keep a common standard and also to minimize WP:OR. For United Arab Emirates, the options listed are "Emirati", "Emirian" and "Emiri" - with no option for "UAE". In addition to that, Emiratis is the article for the name of the people, with Emirati as the singular form. The relevant television categories (and others as well) are named in the style of Category:Emirati television series. Other Wikipedia stats when searching:

Searching for: intitle:"(UAE " - gives 1 result, this.
Searching for: intitle:"(Emirati " - gives 15 results (example articles: Mohammad Iqbal (Emirati cricketer), Ahmed Raza (Emirati cricketer), Al-Ittihad (Emirati newspaper)).
Searching for: intitle:"(Emirian " - gives no results.
Searching for: intitle:"(Emiri " - gives no results.

From the above data, I see no reason to create a unique naming style instead of staying with the one already established and supported by the relevant country list (WP:CONSISTENCY). Gonnym (talk) 15:41, 3 November 2018 (UTC) --Relisted. Paine Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there 17:30, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the reason for this RM, but I'm going to oppose on the grounds that "UAE" is just plumb more WP:RECOGNIZABLE for disambiguation than "Emirati", regardless of what List of adjectival and demonymic forms for countries and nations says. Also, in WP:NCTV, we already use "UK" and "U.S." (though not without controversy), so using UAE here is hardly out of line. However, if we can ever get NCTV to switch to using "British" and "American" for disambiguation, I'd be willing to revisit this one then... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:09, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Just pointing out that both "UK" and "U.S." are listed as viable options, making UAE irregular and pretty much WP:OR... --Gonnym (talk) 16:49, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note that a related RM proposal, Talk:Emirati passport#Requested move 11 November 2018, is directly relevant to this discussion. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking as someone with little to no knowledge of the UAE, I would definitely understand "(UAE TV series)" faster than "(Emirati TV series)"... and "UAE" is more consistent with "UK" and "U.S.", as mentioned above. So I guess the question becomes "is '(UAE TV series)' liable to be more confusing for more people?" If "UAE TV series" is going to be widely understood, then per WP:COMMONALITY it seems like the best choice. If not, then perhaps "Emirati" is the way to go. —Joeyconnick (talk) 22:41, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting that the discussion IJBall linked to seems to be a WP:SNOW oppose to "UAE", making this again, the only article which will use this instead of the adjective (and again, as noted above, List of adjectival and demonymic forms for countries and nations unlike U.S. and UK, UAE is not listed there). --Gonnym (talk) 11:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Move. Emirati is undoubtedly an adjectival form, and is consistent with the other article titles. Whether is UAE is questionable. --Bsherr (talk) 00:48, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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