Talk:Super Robot Wars UX

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Hatsune Miku origin[edit]

User:Blackgaia02 has been adding to the article that the Hatsune Mika robot first appeared in Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Extend, but he has not added a reliable source to verify this and claims, "It doesn't make sense. And Vocaloids DON'T BELONG in a SRW game!" [1]. Additionally, he has removed my in-text attribution for the quote "simple but neat design" claiming, "Do not say the website name in this article. It's already in the reference section." ([2]) My understanding of WP:INTEXT (which I notified the user of in [3]), is that we should we should use in-text attribution "in addition to an inline citation after the sentence" and it "should be used with direct speech (a source's words between quotation marks); indirect speech (a source's words, modified [see the article], without quotation marks); and close paraphrasing." I believe the origins of the miku robot should be removed because it constitutes original research, and that the website should be attributed in the article. --Odie5533 (talk) 21:38, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Even if WP:INTEXT were optional, in this case we clearly should be attributing a direct quote of opinion to the source because otherwise it will confuse readers as to why we have quoted some text in the article but not other text. Why do you believe we should not follow the well-established WP:CITE guideline in this case? Regarding the statement from SEGA, can you please provide a reference to show that SEGA has said the miku/fei yen's first appearance is in Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Extend? Claims such as these must be substantiated. --Odie5533 (talk) 03:01, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can not understand a word of Japanese. I integrated the source. In the future, when someone challenges material you add and you want to add it back, please cite a reliable source by following the tutorial at WP:REF. Additionally, Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia. Every so often you will run in to people with different opinions, and even in these instances we should strive to reach a consensus. --Odie5533 (talk) 10:26, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]