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1952 train consist[edit]

The 1952 consist of the Texas Eagle needs a citation detailing where this information was derived, since it includes usage of a parlor-observation car, which was never known to be used on the Texas Eagle. The car number noted, car #740, was actually a 44-seat diner, not a parlor-observation, so perhaps this is a simple case of misidentification of one car number on the consist. Most rail historians familiar with Missouri Pacific passenger train operations would question the use of a parlor-observation car on the Texas Eagle, in the absence of some primary source citation.RI-Bill (talk) 02:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Route[edit]

Shouldn't the route be listed all the way to Los Angeles California? John R G 06:57, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Since the current timetable (PDF) shows operations through to LA, I would think so. {{sofixit}}. Slambo (Speak) 16:06, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

The August 2009 "Trains" magazine that contains the article, "Amtrak's Southwest Expansion," on a rerouting and quotes a higher up in Amtrak, reading, "It's time we had daily service to Arizona." Even the station masters I talked to in Houston (during the "A Christmas Carol" train tour visit) explained that yes, Amtrak is planning this, but it's just a matter of whether or not they get the logistics together to do this. Said article also explains that they would actually service Arizona during daylight hours for a change as well. [Josiah O.]

Consolidation? Category?[edit]

So I've been editing Heartland Flyer, Lone Star (passenger train) (a/k/a Texas Chief), and even started Inter-American (Amtrak), and I got to thinking that all these trains (and the Texas Eagle) are inter-related. What is the best way to somehow link them all together? The article for the Texas Chief redirects to the one for the Lone Star, since they are the same trains ... but only after Amtrak. The 'Chief has a history before that with the AT&SF. The Inter-American became the Eagle and then Texas Eagle. The Hearland Flyer connect with one and runs over parts of the route of the other. How do we link all of that into a concise whole? -- plaws 15:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Consist[edit]

I removed the following...

Consist[edit]

The current consist on the Texas Eagle includes: 1 P42, 1 dorm-sleeper, 1 sleeper, 1 diner, 1 lounge/cafe, 1 coach-baggage, and 2 coaches. This consist is relatively short because it is combined with the Sunset Limited in San Antonio.

...because it is incorrect and unsourced. The Texas Eagle, like other Amtrak consists has a large amount of variability. The train does not always only have one engine. Nor is that engine always a P42 Often there is a baggage car A standard sleeper will often substitute for a transition-dorm-sleeper. depending on day of the week, one or two sleepers(occasionally even 3) often a diner/lounge can substitute for either the diner or both the diner and lounge and the types and amounts of coaches vary based on day of week and season. Furthermore, the consist is NOT combined with the Sunset Limited. (usually)Two cars are, a sleeper and a coach.

The above edit has been reversed. The purpose of listing a consist for the Texas Eagle or any similar passenger train is to provide an understanding of the usual and customary train consist. The normal consist, as defined by Amtrak, is as now listed in the article. While occasional substitutions may occur in the context of normal operations, the consist as listed is accurate on virtually all trips.RI-Bill (talk) 05:52, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Accuracy issues[edit]

The portion of the article dealing with the Amtrak history is almost non-existent, and the start year in the infobox (1974) definitely isn't right. There were essentially two Chicago-Texas trains in the 1970s: the Texas Chief/Lone Star (Chicago-Houston/Dallas) and the Inter-American (Chicago-St. Louis-Laredo). The Lone Star gets combined with the Inter-American; at some point in 1981 the Inter-American is cut back to San Antonio, loses its through section to Houston and its renamed the Eagle. The Eagle, then would seem to be forerunner of the Amtrak Texas Eagle, which would put the start date at 1981, not 1974. It's also not clear when Amtrak adopts the name Texas Eagle, or why. Mackensen (talk) 18:03, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

The start year of 1974 (March 13, 1974 to be exact) is the year that service south from St. Louis to Texas was restored along the former route of the Texas Eagle. The date in the infobox thus refers to the date that passenger service was restored on this route, not the date when the train name evolved back to the traditional Texas Eagle name. Referencing your above comments, the Inter-American was never combined with the Lone Star. The Lone Star was discontinued in October 1979. In October 1981, the Inter-American was renamed The Eagle when new Superliner cars were assigned to the Chicago-St. Louis-Little Rock-Dallas-San Antonio route. The Temple-Houston segment and the San Antonio-Laredo segment were both discontinued at that time. In November 1988, the Eagle was renamed the Texas Eagle, when a Dallas-Corsicana-Houston segment was added to the route.RI-Bill (talk) 18:16, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Cultural References?[edit]

Steve Earle has a bluegrass song about the Texas Eagle on his album The Mountain, about riding the Eagle as a kid with his grandfather. As there is no section here for such references, and some might consider it trivia, I am leaving it to those who regularly edit the page to decide relevancy. Cheers. 99.43.32.160 (talk) 14:01, 22 March 2012 (UTC)