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The Running Man clearly draws from previous work, although the exact line of inspiration/plagiarism is hard to determine.

The first instance is Robert Sheckley's short story "The Prize of Peril" (1958).
Sheckley's story was turned into the 1970 German TV movie Das Millionenspiel (imdb). This movie is probably very obscure outside and even in Germany, and in fact couldn't be rebroadcast for 30 years due to legal issues.
Sheckley is again credited for the French movie Le Prix du danger (1983), starring Michel Piccoli as the smarmy show host. The movie version of The Running Man very much looks like a Hollywood remake of this French movie.

Not having read King's novel, I don't know how it fits in there. —Naddy 16:18, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Running Man 2: A rumor of a possible sequel?

While I was watching The Running Man on Turner South I began to look up the same name on the internet, but sometime after the movie has ended I found two sites that may have something to do with a sequel to the Governator's dystopian blood run. Here are the sites I found in order:

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Seishirou Sakurazuka (talk • contribs) 03:04, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Split (2006)

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Done Was split on 28 October 2006 with this edit and page creation

This should be split into two articles. One for the book and one for the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.239.71.240 (talk • contribs) 08:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Error

At the trivia sector of "The Running Man" it is reported that the plane was almost fully loaded with fuel prior to it's finale..At the book it is written exactly that:"Its tanks were still better than a quarter full". Since I am unaware of how to properly edit the main article page, I'd appreciate if sb would amend it accordingly..

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthony Tas. (talk • contribs) 12:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're absolutely right. However, I recommend the 9/11 references be REMOVED. The only thing the book and 9/11 share is that a plane was deliberately crashed into a building. There are a lot of stories in which this scenario occurs. This book has nothing to do with 9/11. I'm going to remove the reference if no one objects. But first I'm going to fix the fuel tank error. Globe199 22:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I changed my mind and removed the 9/11 section entirely. It was very poorly written and completely irrelevant. Globe199 22:04, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:59, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism?

Can someone explain why the book "Running man" is so much the same as Robert Sheckley's "The prize of Peril", and why is this not a plagiarism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.34.134 (talk) 04:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism refers to direct copying of a actual text from a book. You cannot put very many protections on ideas. If the book you mentioned is indeed copied word for word, (which I doubt, given that there are political messages in Running Man tied directly to the era) or parts are copied, than that might be illegal. But this idea really is nothing new. Redcard (talk) 19:35, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Havn't actually read the other book but based on the wikipedia entry there are similarities in theme but there are also some major differences. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.103.73 (talk) 06:45, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redcard is quite wrong; plagiarism is not restricted to "direct copying of a actual text from a book" [sic]. From the page on plagiarism: "Plagiarism is defined in dictionaries as the "wrongful appropriation," "close imitation," or "purloining and publication" of another author's "language, thoughts, ideas, or expressions," and the representation of them as one's own original work".

To answer Anon's question: The Running Man is so similar to The Prize of Peril because Stephen King has plagiarised the key ideas, structure, themes and plot points from Sheckley's story. The idea that The Running Man is laced with political commentary is quite accurate, but to say that such commentary is not present in The Prize of Peril is an indication that you have not read it.

To answer Anon's second question: Every Stephen King book I have read has been highly derivative, verging on plagiarism, and most of his ideas have been stolen from old pulp Sci-fi and fantasy stories (such as Robert Sheckley) or old Twilight Zone and Outer Limits episodes. The reason it is not described as plagiarism is that nobody cares. Welcome to the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.3.81.201 (talk) 00:09, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Was King sued for plagiarism? In the Trivia section at the IMDb (not the most reliable of sources, obviously), there is a comment that suggests that the French author sued King. Both novels appeared in the same year, though.

If King was sued, isn't that a worthy detail to add to the article?

199.26.230.102 (talk) 13:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)theBaron0530[reply]

Ah, apologies, I think I got it wrong about when the novels were published. Apparently the French film version based on Sheckley's novel and King's novel came out in the same year. My question is still the same, in any case. If King was sued, should that be in the article?

Best regards, TheBaron0530 (talk) 13:15, 18 September 2014 (UTC)theBaron0530[reply]

Other media with same plot idea

In addition to "The Prize of Peril", the 1970 German made-for-TV movie Das Millionenspiel, which created a media scandal when it was first shown on that nation's main TV channel ARD, also has pretty much the same setting (though it is set in a "dsystopian present" rather than a dystopian future). Maybe some mentions of these and other treatments of the same idea wouldn't be out of place in the article? -- 77.7.171.213 (talk) 13:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I didn't see this was already mentioned above. -- 77.7.171.213 (talk) 13:52, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move (2012)

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The result of the move request was: moved to "The Running Man (novel)" per below. DrKiernan (talk) 14:10, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Running Man → ? – Article about this novel is less viewed than the film. I don't know if it must be either "(novel)" or "(King novel)"; The Running Man (Bauer novel) exists. Entries with exact same name must be separated from Running Man.--Relisted Cúchullain ^t/c 15:52, 3 October 2012 (UTC) --George Ho (talk) 06:44, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support The Running Man (novel). Not all editors support the idea of "sub" primary topics, but the King novel had well over 10 times as many views as the Bauer one last month. It's definitely reasonable to think someone typing that term in is looking for the King novel. Just to clarify, do you intend for The Running Man to be about the film or a dab page? --BDD (talk) 17:00, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to The Running Man (novel) for the search distribution reason cited by BDD. I find no primary topic for The Running Man, and support it being a disambiguation page; oppose it pointing to a film. Films age faster than books. --Bejnar (talk) 23:10, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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