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At AFD: Still Ill[edit]

WP:Articles for deletion/Still Ill. -- Softlavender (talk) 06:16, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Smiths/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Spintendo (talk · contribs) 04:25, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The article will be reviewed according to the criteria specified below. As the nominating editor at this time is unable to meaningfully participate in this review due to a ban, the issues affecting the article will be mentioned in the GA table below and the review will be concluded. For local editors monitoring, a list of the most pressing items is shown below in the GA Table. Regards, Spintendo 04:25, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review 22-APR-2019[edit]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Because the nominating editor was unavailable for assistance, the needed copyediting and cleanup of the prose could not be carried out.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	The article contains numerous dead links. The amount of links which are not working make checking of the references difficult.
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	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
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	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
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	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
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	7. Overall assessment.	The article does not meet GA status. Areas for improvement are noted above.

Manager?[edit]

The Times obituary of Scott Piering claims that Piering set up the press and promotion department at Rough Trade, and was the manager of the Smiths during the period covering their first 3 albums [the obit's text is on Piering's talk page]. He is also referred to as their former manager in the article Panic (The Smiths song). I find it a little odd that there's no mention of Piering anywhere else in Smiths articles (no incoming links at least); however, as I am certainly inclined to trust The Times as a reliable source I have repeated the claim in the article about him. If you need to make a change to the Piering article, I have that watchlisted. If you need to reply to me here please ping me. --kingboyk (talk) 07:07, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Louder than bombs[edit]

Are we not acknowledging this great album? 47.14.163.159 (talk) 02:41, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In fact it's a compilation album, so in that case you'd need to write down the other ones. And yes, it's great. J. G. is a blonde freak (talk) 18:19, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Craig Gannon (again)[edit]

In the Members section, someone has moved him from the main members section to others. It's true that he's not usually considered one of the main four - and as the editor says, didn't play on any of their studio albums - and the main photo doesn't include him. But we now have the inconsistency of him being included in the info box as a principal member, while being treated as not principal elsewhere in the article. Can we get consensus on this? Mark and inwardly digest (talk) 17:26, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]