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Reliable source?

Context: Central to WP:Notability is "has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources." It's not clear to me whether this sculpture group meets that criterion. I see that another editor has already tagged the article with {{refimprove}}. PamD (talk) 15:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The only reference which actually appears to discuss the sculptures is the rather cryptic: "SOS! Survey Questionnaire, Description 1992-1994". I've got a feeling that if I rummaged around in the project pages for Public Art I might be able to identify what this survey is, but it needs to be made clear in this reference on this page, so that readers and editors can see whether it is a reliable source. Please could someone (Richard?) expand that reference so that we can see what it is? Thanks. PamD (talk) 15:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've now found the article Save Outdoor Sculpture!, made a redirect to it from SOS! (yes it was already listed at SOS (disambiguation), but that's a long page), and linked it from the ref. But as the questionnaire doesn't seem to be mentioned in the article, it's not much help. Found a link to the record at the Smithsonian, and have given it as an External Link. No indication of any source for the "description" section. PamD (talk) 15:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

PamD, as you and I know well from this article, and the other written by this editor, it was written hastily and still needs a lot of work. Thanks for working through the SOS! source, which is highly reliable. This article remains one from the Statehouse that needs considerable work; it's on my to do list.

I do want to point out that difficulty, which I've done many times, of working on public artworks and art in general. Particularly from a Calvinistic, puritanical US perspective, public artworks have not been highly regarded in US society; likewise, they have received dramatically poor attention from the media in the second half of the 20th century and beyond. However, I believe with good research, information will surface about this important sculptural group.

Finally, I do hope that at some point that notability guidelines that deal with artworks and artists distinctly will be written; they deserve special consideration in Wikipedia, and from my last look around cannot tell that they've ever received any. Thanks, --RichardMcCoy (talk) 16:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the general policy works perfectly well for them, as past discussions have concluded. Johnbod (talk) 15:42, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll not be taking this argumentative bait; suffice it to say I disagree. --RichardMcCoy (talk) 18:18, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

All's well that ends well?

Thanks, Richard, for your cleanup of the article. With Johnbod's discovery of a reasonable title, it's now looking pretty good! It's come a long way since I first saw it - led here after stub-sorting the same editor's other contribution at a similar stage in its development! PamD (talk) 14:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]