Talk:Vagina and vulva in art

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Split from the Vagina article?[edit]

Hey, OnBeyondZebrax. This looks like it may turn into a good article. I think you should also consider nominating it at WP:Did you know. But why did you feel that this topic needed its own article, when most of this is covered in the Vagina article, most of it is about the vagina, and when there is plenty of room there for further expansion on this matter? Per WP:Spinout and WP:No split, I'm generally against splitting material. I don't split unless necessary. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 02:08, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I want to expand Vagina and vulva in art, so that it covers a large number of vagina and vulva-themed artworks from prehistory to the current day. Soon I anticipate that the new article will grow too big to be housed within the main vagina article.OnBeyondZebraxTALK 03:48, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OnBeyondZebrax, thanks for explaining. I think that, per WP:Summary style, we should reduce the size of the "In contemporary literature and art" section of the Vagina article, since it's currently so redundant to this new article you created. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:59, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. Then if the reader wants additional details, she/he can come to the full article.OnBeyondZebraxTALK 04:01, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sources and notes[edit]

Some search results, for whoever gets to this first. I intend to read them in more depth and add to the article, but it may take some time:

  • The list of resources in Read My Lips: A Complete Guide to the Vagina and Vulva by Debby Herbenick, research scientist and sex educator, and Vanessa Schick, award-winning women's health activist.
    • The Cunt Coloring Book by Tee Corinne: "a lot of fun and a great way to open dialogue about genital diversity".
    • Femalia by Joani Blank (1993): "a beautiful book of close-up color images"
    • Petals (2005): "a lovely coffee table book.... a wide variety of images"
    • Zen Pussy: A Meditation on Eleven Vulvas (1999) by Annie Sprinkle

NB Femalia was used as a sourcebook by Neal Wilson, an American genital surgeon in "The Aesthetic Vulva: Perineal Cosmesis in the Male-to-Female Transsexual" [1]. He refers to "my journey through the troubled waters of vulval aesthetics". It is also referred to by the medical researchers behind "Female genital appearance: ‘normality’ unfolds" [2].

  • Christen Clifford "created the performance art piece Feminist Peep Show, in which she talked to a crowd while showing them the interior of her vagina with a speculum....[A later project takes] images from that performance and emblazoning them on pink silk scarves. Eloquently naming them “Pussy Bow.” "[3] The performance sounds like one that Annie Sprinkle did a generation ago.
  • Socio-cultural representations of the vagina in Journal of Reproductive and Infant Psychology Volume 19, 2001 - Issue 1 - I have only seen the abstract, so it may or may not discuss "art".
  • Time Out does a round-up here with the emphasis on "brief". Some of the artworks described are simply nudes, but others should be included.

Carbon Caryatid (talk) 12:41, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And more on the theme of "am I normal" or anti-designer vagina info:

Carbon Caryatid (talk) 18:33, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Manko-chan[edit]

マンコ is a primary obscenity in Japanese so Manki-chan is better translated as “Miss Cunt”. 114.78.2.64 (talk) 12:06, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sub-standard & unsourced bla²[edit]

Save it or dump it, but as it is now it can't be kept - a far below RS level source, and 2 unsourced New Age "spirituality awareness" bla² bits.

Positive views of the vagina use it to represent female sexuality, spirituality, or life, e.g. as a "powerful symbol of womanliness, openness, acceptance, and receptivity ... the inner valley spirit".<ref name="Linn">{{cite book|author=Denise Linn|title=Secret Language of Signs: How to Interpret the Coincidences and Symbols in Your Life |publisher=[[Random House]] Publishing Group |page=276|isbn=978-0-307-55955-5|year=2009 |access-date=November 21, 2014|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=YB5_AT_By6IC&pg=PA276}}</ref> Some ancient cultures celebrated and even worshipped the vulva, as seen in Paleolithic artworks from what archaeologist Marija Gimbutas has dubbed "Old Europe", the same being true for some ancient Middle Eastern religions.{{cn|date= April 2024}} As an aspect of Goddess worship, such reverence may be part of modern Neopagan beliefs.{{cn|date= April 2024}}

Arminden (talk) 15:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]