Talk:West Syrian Rite

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What rite do you have?[edit]

Oknazevad recently asked me about the West Syrian liturgical rites article I created. My motivation for creating it was that the scope of this article is confused. This article, based on the Catholic Encyclopedia article, primarily discusses the rite practiced by the Syriac Orthodox Church and Syriac Catholic Church. The sources I used list this rite as one of three distinct but related rites in the same family, together with the Maronite Rite and the Malankara Rite. I started West Syrian liturgical rites as a quick attempt to deal with this. There are a few things we can do to deal with this. We could rewrite this article to discuss all three rites. However, no source I've seen outside of Wikipedia uses the specific name "West Syrian Rite" to discuss all three rites. It would have to be rewritten and retitled. Or, we could write this article to discuss specifically the Syriac Orthodox/Syriac Catholic rite, and discuss how the others are related (which is what I tried to do with the intro). In this case, we would still need a place to discuss the family of rites. Thoughts?--Cúchullain t/c 13:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Britannica says that the "Antiochene rite", which it defines as the whole family of rites I mentioned above, is also called the "West Syrian rite". So perhaps we wouldn't need a new title after all, but a total rewrite would be in order.--Cúchullain t/c 13:32, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
(Trying to avoid rolling eyes at punny title). As I said at your talk page, the way I've always understood it, through my studies, is that the Malankara and Marionite are not distinct rites so much as variant usages that developed because of the independant operations of each church (with the marionite being pretty Latinized, though the post-Vatican II de-Latinization has undone some of that). As soon as I saw your mention of Britannica, I remebered that they may have influenced my understanding (he says as he looks at the old Britannica set on the shelf).
As for how distinct they actually are, I don't know enough to say for certain. I'm still trying to get an understanding of the differences between the West and East Syrian rites. oknazevad (talk) 21:57, 7 May 2010 (UTC)