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What is the correct wording for "semi-formal or dress" western wear for parties or dinners? There has to be a wording that tells participants to wear their best boots, jeans, and shirts instead of being uncomfortable in a tie and jacket. Please answer.... For ladies, what is in vogue for women's wear? Thank you for any input, Alexis

Well, I am not familiar with them, but I do recall from the time I spent in Texas that there is a range of high-society type dress codes specific to Texas or at least "Western" culture. For example, there was a catagory "denim and diamonds", but what was required to meet this I don't recall, as I didn't move in those circles. But I guess that invitations to an event would include the type of dress required. Wschart (talk) 00:08, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Derby hats? Really?

Follow the link to the article on Bowler hats where it states that bowlers/derbies were invented in 1849. I guess Westerners weren't wearing them before that. My guess is that many pioneer settlers, drovers, trappers and hunters were wearing wide-brimmed hats for protection from the weather. No doubt other Westerners wore hats of other styles with narrower brims, but probably not Derbies. Also, photos of real Western farmers and ranchers in the late 19th/early 20th centuries shows many of them wearing high-crowned, wide-brimmed hats, probably for protection from the sun and rain. It was the Hollywood cowboys who curled up the brims so their faces would show up better on film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.80.149 (talk) 23:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Western" shirts.

The article suggests that Western or Cowboy shirts constructed with a yoke over the shoulders is of Mexican origin. In fact, yoke shirts were brought to North America by immigrants from the Anglo-Scottish Border region in the early eighteenth century. The buckskin and linsey-woolsey hunting shirts worn by Eastern pioneers from the early eighteenth century on had this yoke feature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.80.149 (talk) 21:22, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: Not moved; no support. (non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 23:30, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Western wear → Western wear (United States) – Or comparable disambiguation. Consider WP:GLOBAL. Western wear ought to redirect to Western dress codes or similar. PPEMES (talk) 14:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I see no real challenger for this title. This definition of "Western" is known all over the world. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:39, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure about that at is not falling behind Western as in Occidental in the contemporary world at large? In contemporary debate, does simply "Western" really mean what you're thinking about? If it doesn't, how can you be so sure that "Western wear" would be clear to any global English-speaker? PPEMES (talk) 13:51, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm English, not American, so in this instance I am a "global" English-speaker! "Western wear" means nothing to me outside the meaning outlined in this article. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:05, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Would it hurt though to take into account the referential world of non-native, non-Anglo-Saxon, non-television, non-20th century generations? PPEMES (talk) 15:07, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you telling me that 21st-century generations don't know what a western is? I find that hard to believe. This is English Wikipedia. I'm not sure we have to redefine things that are common knowledge to native speakers in terms that would be understandable to non-native speakers (who have their own Wikipedias, which doubtless don't over-define things that would be common knowledge to native speakers of those languages). That would make everything far too complex. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:14, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am just going to stick these articles out here: Western saddle, Western shirt, Western fiction, Western (genre), and National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum. Are not these articles all either suffering with the same issue or do they establish that Western items are understood? dawnleelynn^(talk) 17:37, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Of these, don't you think Western shirt and possible Western fiction could be evaluated similarly? The others seem good enough as is to me, though. PPEMES (talk) 22:10, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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