Talk:World record progression 10,000 m speed skating men

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Move discussion in progress[edit]

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Revert move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:48, 26 March 2014 (UTC)



World record progression 10000 m speed skating menWorld record progression 10,000 m speed skating menWikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Delimiting (grouping of digits) states:

  • Numbers with five or more digits to the left of the decimal point (i.e. 10,000 or greater) should be delimited into groups so they can be easily parsed, such as by using a comma (,) every three digits (e.g. 12,200, 255,200, 8,274,527).

Despite this, this article (amongst related others that have four-digit numbers) were moved in July 2013 following discussion at Talk:World record progression 1000 m speed skating men#Requested move. Oddly, supporters cited the above guideline which had the same text as it does now and therefore actually contradicts the original move (i.e., taking out the comma that the guideline says should be there).

This one (10,000 m) at least should be reverted to comply with the guideline. Whether the others should also be reverted for consistency is a separate question since four-digit numbers may include or omit the comma (but see the current discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Comma delimiting for four-digit numbers). sroc 💬 15:11, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

  • Oppose. I respectfully disagree – quote-unquote GHWB (first budget) – as I think the MOS should be amended. When 10k is at the end of the range of distances, I think this will introduce an awkward inconsistency, for a single entry at the end of a list. Let's have the discussion at MOS first. HandsomeFella (talk) 15:30, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
    • There is no need for discussion at MOS first unless you propose to amend MOS to allow the current naming. This proposal is to bring the article title in line with MOS, as it is currently non-compliant. sroc 💬 14:27, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Support for consistency with the guideline. Bandy boy (talk) 11:40, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Support I expressed such concerns in the last group move. I still don't see it as particularly important, but while we have a guideline, we might as well follow it. These are poor titles anyway. They're junk grammatically. --BDD (talk) 17:40, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Support - per MOS. If some editors believe the MOS should be amended, that discussion should take place at WT:MOS, not here. Parsecboy (talk) 18:11, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.