Talk:Yusuf Shihab

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Did you know... that Yusuf Shihab, emir of Mount Lebanon, bailed himself out of prison by promising Ottoman governor Jezzar Pasha a bribe of 1,000,000 qirsh, which he later failed to deliver?

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Brice, p. 268[edit]

..is not mentioned in the Biblio-section, Cheers, Huldra (talk) 21:12, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, added it. --Al Ameer (talk) 21:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

Great article, as always from Al Ameer.

Why Shihab, not Chehab? We are not consistent thoughout wiki on this, but now might be a good time to make a decision one way or the other across this and Mount Lebanon Emirate, Chehab family, Bashir III and Bashir Shihab II.

They seem to be broadly similar in usage on google books, and on good itself (I searched for "chehab lebanon" and "shihab lebanon"). My vote is for Shihab across all articles, primarily because shin is more usually transliterated sh.

Oncenawhile (talk) 19:08, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Oncenawhile: Most of the scholarly sources I've come across use "Shihab" and occasionally "Shehab" for this article. The "Ch" instead of "Sh" is common in Arab countries where France held significant colonial influence, including Lebanon, Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia. I think when it comes to the emirs of Mount Lebanon and their associate family members (i.e. the multazems of Hasbaya and other places) we should use "Shihab" per common name according to the bulk of scholarly sources (sources for Bashir II and III use both, but Shihab is more common). With modern-era family members, Chehab seems to be the common name (unless proven otherwise) as in Fuad Chehab or Khaled Chehab. As for the main article Chehab family, I prefer renaming it to Shihab dynasty and talking about the modern-day family in a "Legacy" or "Descendants" section. (Might be better to move this discussion to Talk:Chehab family). --Al Ameer (talk) 21:41, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]