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Edit Request

Moved from Talk:Name of Armenia

 – Happy Editing--IAmChaos 14:17, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Please edit the topic templates to read "Names of European states and territories" and "Names of Asian states and territories" respectively. Thank you! 2001:B07:6469:3006:2833:F11F:CA16:5B66 (talk) 12:35, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Closing, this has been answered at Template talk:Asia topic#Edit Request. CMD (talk) 02:52, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 13 April 2022

Although there are lists for some countries such as Finland, these are not seen in the template. So these should be fixed. --Egeymi (talk) 10:28, 13 April 2022 (UTC) Egeymi (talk) 10:28, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

For any particular use of this template, missing links to pages should be solved by creating redirects. CMD (talk) 10:51, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 6 May 2022

Randomy1686 (talk) 17:31, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Rename Czech Republic to Czechia and add Belarus' page

 Not done: It is unclear what pages you are referring to, this is a general template. CMD (talk) 17:40, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 20 May 2022

Please change the Mythologies of the United Kingdom to Mythologies of the countries of the United Kingdom, looks like it's been renamed and not updated here. Halbared (talk) 22:39, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: the redirect that navigates readers to the correct article is Mythology of the United Kingdom, which yes, was renamed to the present title. These topic navbars are the exception when it comes to bypassing redirects. The "Mythology of Europe" navbar in the Mythologies of the countries of the United Kingdom article contains mostly redirects and a few red links. The red links will be checked to see if there are articles that need redirects. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 01:46, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Discussion - DPR and LPR

Hello, I was wondering what the threshold is for inclusion of the two separatist entities in Eastern Ukraine under the row "States with limited recognition"? These entities do have official recognition from Russia and from a couple other limited-recognition entities, and the extent of their recognition is now equal to that of Northern Cyprus, and exceeds Artsakh and Transnistria (since DPR and LPR are recognized by a UN member state) Should they or should they not be included? Are we waiting for clarification on their final status after the (hopefully peaceful and immediate) conclusion of the Russian invasion of Ukraine? BasilLeaf (talk) 21:45, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

The threshold is probably whether they are included on the main articles for the topic, which I suppose they now are. I'm not sure there's a huge rush to add them here however, they'll be redlinks for almost every topic. CMD (talk) 01:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

I wouldn't suggest adding them to the list until anything solidifies. It's definately unclear whether the boundaries will remain the same if Russia does take and maintain control of these territories after the conflict. Control of this is constantly changing during the conflict. Thanks -- Dmm1169 (talk) 14:21, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 8 June 2022

Can Vatican City be added as a Sovereign State in Europe starting 1929? While every other micronations of Europe is included in the template (Liechtenstein, Monaco, and San Marino), Vatican City is not included. I am currently working on creating and uploading the 'year in' articles for Vatican City, and so far have made the years 1929, 1930, 1931, and 2022 so far, and I would love to see them more easily accessible through this template if possible. Thanks! --Johnson524 (talk) 02:03, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

I should also mention that 2022 in Vatican City appears on other '2022 in' pages, but in '2021 in' articles for example where Vatican City does not have an article yet, it does not get a red box displaying the article needs to be made, there's just no mention of the nation. --Johnson524 (talk) 02:07, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

 Question: Vatican City is included in this template. I suspect you may want Template talk:Year in Europe, which has some further coding. CMD (talk) 02:28, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

So to test if this works or not, I typed in both "Europe topic|2021 in" (this one) and "Year in Europe|2021" in a 2021 in country article, and this template did not show Vatican City, while the other one showed it as the link History of Vatican City like that template is supposed to when there is no article link. I'm fine with just using that template if I need to, but seeing that every other country in Europe has a link except the Vatican, I didn't think was correct. Thank you for responing so quickly, I appreciate it 😃 Hope this makes sense! -- Johnson524 (talk) 03:24, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

I think I see what you mean. This template has an ifexist clause for Vatican City, so if you create the articles they should show up. CMD (talk) 03:45, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

But shouldn't there be a redlink for the article instead of an ifexist to match better with the other nations without an article in that year? -- Johnson524 (talk) 13:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

This template is used for many many applications. Vatican City has an ifexist because it's unique, so many pages that might be redlinked may simply not ever be useful. CMD (talk) 15:30, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for your help! -- Johnson524 (talk) 16:24, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 29 August 2022

Hi all, could we link List of forts in Artsakh to the List of forts in Europe template? It's red linked as of right now, but the article exists. Much appreciated, Archives908 (talk) 18:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Archives908 (talk) 18:14, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Redirect created. CMD (talk) 19:03, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 9 November 2022

Please fix the following.

For 2020 in Ireland, navbox {{Europe topic|2020 in}}

Reason: Ireland is not hilighted. For 2019, 2021, etc. it's correct.

Way beyond my skills, so thanks for helping. JoeNMLC (talk) 16:36, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

ADDITIONAL Year

For 2015 in Ireland, navbox {{Europe topic|2015 in}}

Reason: Ireland is not hilighted.

Also see several Red Links, so may need further updating. JoeNMLC (talk) 16:50, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done:. {{Europe topic}} is used on thousands of articles about various topics. It automatically makes links with systematic names. For Ireland the link says "the Republic of Ireland" by default. If this gives a red link or redirect then you can add the parameter |IE={{subst:PAGENAME}} on articles about Ireland to make a bold selflink to the actual title of the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:46, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

In this case you can also try whether {{Year in Europe|2020}} gives a better result in general. That's what 2019 in Ireland and 2021 in Ireland does. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:03, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

 Done - Thanks. Yes that Year in Europe|yyyy navbox works correctly. I updated both 2020 and 2015 for Ireland. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 18:57, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Reintroduce opt-in former countries

For context, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Soviet Union and Yugoslavia were supported by the template in January and February 2016 (Special:Diff/798443716) according to this talk section: Template talk:Europe topic/Archive 4#Former states. I sometimes stumble upon Soviet Union and Yugoslavia-related "<topic> in <country>" articles randomly, through search results, never knowing they existed as they are unlinked from any navboxes. For example I was only able to find articles for Terrorism in Yugoslavia, Scouting in Yugoslavia, Telephone numbers in Yugoslavia and Swimming in Yugoslavia through special search for page titles containing "in Yugoslavia". Non-automated navboxes like Template:Postal history of Europe and Template:Tallest buildings and structures contain links to past countries when articles for them exist (obviously, only few will always exist, mostly for states that don't have a single successor, so there's little concern for overpopulating these navboxes). -Vipz (talk) 09:08, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 November 2022

Hi, the links to Propaganda in Germany, Italy and United Kingdom are currently directed to disambiguation pages. I understand the reason for this is due to the different the content in the topic covering different eras in history. Is it possible to include the word 'disambiguation' in the link? I am asking this request because I try to clean up Wiki pages that have incorrect or vague disambiguation links and this template appears in the 'list of pages to edit'. Thank you! ColRad85 (talk) 07:47, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

I will deal with it by creating {{Propaganda in Europe}} with customized links for some countries. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:44, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

@ColRad85: I have created the template and added it to the articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:09, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! ColRad85 (talk) 04:48, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 November 2022

Change "List of mammals of the Republic of Ireland" to "List of mammals of Ireland" Heh0002 (talk) 22:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: This is a generic template, so often redirects are needed for some articles. CMD (talk) 01:49, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

@Heh0002: List of mammals of the Republic of Ireland already redirects to List of mammals of Ireland. I have added |IE=List of mammals of Ireland to the call in that article to produce a bold selflink.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:34, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!!!! Heh0002 (talk) 22:01, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 28 December 2022

please color it saffron like other hinduism related templates Saad Ali Khan Pakistan (talk) 11:22, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: This is a general template used on thousands of articles about different kinds of topics. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:33, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Azores

Why isn't the Azores on this template? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 06:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Subnational areas are generally not included in this template. CMD (talk) 06:31, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 27 March 2023

In Supreme Courts of Europe, the redirect term Supreme Court of France needs to be changed to the actual lemma, Court of Cassation (France).--Hildeoc (talk) 20:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC) Hildeoc (talk) 20:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: This is a generic template which uses the same string for all entries. CMD (talk) 22:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@Chipmunkdavis: What exact "string" are you referring to? Why can't it be corrected if the link in question does not apply the actual lemma? (Please excuse my technical ignorance.) Hildeoc (talk) 12:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

{{Europe topic}} is used for numerous topics and is called with a fixed string pattern for a given topic, in this case {{Europe topic|Supreme Court of}} to make links with "Supreme Court of" in front of all the countries. Different targets can be selected by the caller, not the template. I have made a bold selflink in Court of Cassation (France) by calling it with |FR=Court of Cassation (France).[2] The redirect works fine for all the other articles per WP:NOTBROKEN. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:06, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much indeed once again, dear PrimeHunter, for taking care of that! I highly appreciate your obligingness. You're always a big help. Greetings, Hildeoc (talk) 18:41, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I have now created {{Supreme Courts of Europe}} instead and added it to all articles which used {{Europe topic|Supreme Court of}}. It has direct links to all targets and adds some international links. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:36, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Customlist option

In {{Supreme Courts of Europe}} I added some international links in the below parameter but it could look better. I suggest adding an option to make a customized list after the country groups. I have added customgroup and customlist parameters to the sandbox version.[3] Example call:

In other cases, customgroup might for example be used for "Related articles" or "Former states". PrimeHunter (talk) 23:47, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Looks great! Presumably its main utility will be in wrapper templates? CMD (talk) 00:56, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I had wrapper templates in mind. I think we should encourage wrappers. It's far more flexible when you want to customise or tweak something later without having to update a direct {{Europe topic}} call in numerous articles. After creating {{Supreme Courts of Europe}}, I made 43 edits like [4] to replace direct calls with the wrapper. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:15, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 11 April 2023

Addition of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to "Dependencies and other entities". (Aaland and the Faroe Islands are similar to Scotland and Wales in having devolved parliaments that fall under the sovereignty of a larger entity.) Titus Gold (talk) 23:03, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: Very different cases. CMD (talk) 00:50, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

@Titus Gold: See Template:Europe topic#Enabling links for England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, and Wales. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:24, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Hey @PrimeHunter, I realize this is somewhat unrelated and out of blue to ask, but what do I do with Template talk:Europe topic/Archive 5#Reintroduce opt-in former countries? Can I resurrect the section? No one replied to it and I'm still interested in having these. –Vipz (talk) 04:39, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Vipz, please see #Customlist option immediately above, PrimeHunter may have solved your issue there. CMD (talk) 04:41, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

@Chipmunkdavis: Thank you! I didn't pay attention to the above section. Edit: Though, still awaiting implementation to the main template. –Vipz (talk) 04:44, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter Thank you for bringing my attention to this. Titus Gold (talk) 09:29, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Edit request 30 May 2023

Add links:

Hi all, could an editor kindly add Timeline of Armenian history and Timeline of Artsakh history to the below template? They both appear to be redlinked.

Greatly appreciated! Archives908 (talk) 12:36, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

@Archives908: just click these red links and redirect them to proper titles of the articles. I did it for these two, but next time, try doing it yourself. Cheers. –Vipz (talk) 12:52, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Awesome- I didn't know that. Thank you! Archives908 (talk) 13:23, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 2 September 2023

List of places in Georgia (country) currently redirects to the disambiguation page at List of places in Georgia because it is unclear whether it should target List of municipalities in Georgia (country) or List of cities and towns in Georgia (country) or Administrative divisions of Georgia (country). Please update this template to point directly to one of these list articles. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:17, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Deactivating edit request per the warning at the top of this page - there's nothing this generic meta-navbox can do here. Probably the best solution is to reformat List of places in Georgia (country) as list of lists similar to List of feature films with LGBT characters rather than a disambiguation page. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:20, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Edit request 7 October 2023

Description of suggested change: Could an article I have recently created about the History of Education in Wales be added to the "History of education in Europe" template? The equivalent pages for England and Scotland are already there.

Diff:

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ORIGINAL_TEXT

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CHANGED_TEXT

I'm not sure what changes to the code would be needed.Llewee (talk) 16:06, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done You have to pass |WLS=yes to the call to {{Europe topic}}. It seems the navbox you are referring to was only used on History of education in England and History of education in France, where I've added the parameter. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:42, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Edit request 19 November 2023

Description of suggested change:

Diff:

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[[List_of_Cypriots#Artists]]

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[[List of Cypriot artists]]

for "List of artists from Europe" template. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 01:52, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Nevermind, this was not needed after all. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 02:04, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Artsakh Edit request

Artsakh should be removed and Akrotiri and Dhekelia added. Dasomm (talk) 12:09, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Not sure about the value of A&D links, but I agree Artsakh ({{#if:{{{NKR|♦}}}|* [[{{{NKR|{{{1|{{{prefix|}}}}}} {{#ifeq:{{{article|yes}}}|yes|the}} Republic of Artsakh {{{2| {{{suffix|}}}}}}}}}|Artsakh]]}}) should be removed. If there are no objections, I will open a template edit request. CMD (talk) 01:42, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 1 January 2024

Please change 2024 in Republic of Ireland to 2024 in Ireland, to be consistency with preceding Year in Ireland pages. GoodDay (talk) 00:52, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@GoodDay:  Not done.

 Comment: Different scopes. The Republic of Ireland is not all of Ireland. Check the category trees for Category:2020s in the Republic of Ireland and Category:2020s in Ireland. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 02:03, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

My apologies @Est. 2021:, I meant another Template. GoodDay (talk) 05:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Basque Country

Why is the Basque Country not included in "Dependencies and other entities"? I understand it is a cultural region and falls under both Spain and France. Salmoonlight (talk) 20:44, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

There are many cultural regions that cross borders in Europe, however they are not political entities which is what is covered within this template. CMD (talk) 03:23, 20 January 2024 (UTC)